Totus Tuus Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 [quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1322596014' post='2342207'] except that there is research that suggests refraining from sexual release makes you more likely to get prostrate cancer. [/quote] No offense, but I just don't see how studies like that can be truly unbiased considering how many people want to justify their porn/masturbation these days. I didn't check out the link, but studies "suggesting" a hypothesis are still just that... hypotheses. No proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 [quote name='Totus Tuus' timestamp='1322601359' post='2342261'] No offense, but I just don't see how studies like that can be truly unbiased considering how many people want to justify their porn/masturbation these days. I didn't check out the link, but studies "suggesting" a hypothesis are still just that... hypotheses. No proof. [/quote] Well actually... When I was in college, I had prostate infections, which the doctor said could lead to more "serious trouble" down the road. He said that the reason that I was prone to infections was that the prostate was working a lot the build up was causing my infection. BTW Prostate infections was one of the worst pains I've ever felt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totus Tuus Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) [quote name='jaime' timestamp='1322605428' post='2342272'] Well actually... When I was in college, I had prostate infections, which the doctor said could lead to more "serious trouble" down the road. He said that the reason that I was prone to infections was that the prostate was working a lot the build up was causing my infection. BTW Prostate infections was one of the worst pains I've ever felt. [/quote] It seems like that would not happen for someone whose body was taking care of its biological needs in sleep... (no insensitivity intended, I'm just trying to figure this out) Edited November 29, 2011 by Totus Tuus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 [quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1322554503' post='2342068'] Sup. The first time I actually masturbated was after reading a thread about it here on phatmass. No joke. I think I was 19 or 20 I forget. So mabey this shouldn't be talked about so young kids don't see it. [/quote] These two statement cause me some concern and also brings up some questions. So you didn't to this BEFORE you read phatmass? So it wasn't a physical need before then ? It was stirred on by reading about it - a mental stimulation? If simple reading did this to you, it's a VERY good argument against any kind of reading that leads to this, including Sports Illustrated I would think. And what about the last statement? Are you saying we shouldn't be writing about this here to protect the young? Because there may be others like you who haven't committed this sin before but after reading this thread will be tempted to do so? If that is really what happened to you, then I don't feel comfortable continuing to post in a thread that might be an occasion of sin for another. I know that anything could be an occasion of sin fo another, but from what you are saying, reading about this topic actually DID lead you to commit the sin? Am I reading this correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 [quote name='Totus Tuus' timestamp='1322606437' post='2342278'] It seems like that would not happen for someone whose body was taking care of its biological needs in sleep... (no insensitivity intended, I'm just trying to figure this out) [/quote] Well like a lot of physiological things, that works in theory but it doesn't work for everybody. All I'm saying is that the whole prostate cancer thing is not necessarily from the radical left pro masturbation league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totus Tuus Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name='jaime' timestamp='1322610652' post='2342302'] Well like a lot of physiological things, that works in theory but it doesn't work for everybody. All I'm saying is that the whole prostate cancer thing is not necessarily from the radical left pro masturbation league. [/quote] Fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name='jaime' timestamp='1322610652' post='2342302'] Well like a lot of physiological things, that works in theory but it doesn't work for everybody. All I'm saying is that the whole prostate cancer thing is not necessarily from the radical left pro masturbation league. [/quote] I guess that is another health benefit of being married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 finally realized why the thread title threw me off initially. who is delivering masturbation to people and why are they doing it no more? Good luck bro. It's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1322608276' post='2342284'] These two statement cause me some concern and also brings up some questions. So you didn't to this BEFORE you read phatmass? So it wasn't a physical need before then ? It was stirred on by reading about it - a mental stimulation? If simple reading did this to you, it's a VERY good argument against any kind of reading that leads to this, including Sports Illustrated I would think. And what about the last statement? Are you saying we shouldn't be writing about this here to protect the young? Because there may be others like you who haven't committed this sin before but after reading this thread will be tempted to do so? If that is really what happened to you, then I don't feel comfortable continuing to post in a thread that might be an occasion of sin for another. I know that anything could be an occasion of sin fo another, but from what you are saying, reading about this topic actually DID lead you to commit the sin? Am I reading this correctly?[/quote] Well I'm really weird and all of that so...but ya I was around 21 or so. I don't know why I never did. Friends did and talked about it and I wasn't that pure by any means. I only had sex I think once or twice but I did do stuff with girls just not to the extent of going all the way. I do fully ackowledge not masturbating helped me not to have sex when I was young. I know for a fact if I would of masturbated a lot at a younger age it would of led to sex and I could possibly have kids outside of marriage. So I'm thankfull to God that didn't happen. I don't blame it on phatmass that I started I just think I was a " late. Bloomer " when it came to this I don't know. I know once I started though it was impossible to stop. Like literally impossible. So I don't know. I understand if this thread needs to be closed. Thanks for the prayers guys. Godbless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) And it was a physical need before then. Big time. I just never went down that route. I was really naive to doing it for some reason. And again I wasn't some pure holy kid by any means I just never did. But as a guy the need is always there. The addiction to it is like a really hard drug. Its not like you can just stop if ya want too. Anyhow I don't know why I'm going on and on about this most people know this. If kids are reading this try your best to stop and if you haven't started don't start. Go to confesssion and let God help you with this sin. It is possible not to do it. Again I went 21 or 22 years. Edited November 30, 2011 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1322567938' post='2342084'] Sorry. Let me rephrase that. What I find most disturbing is the reason for not masturbating, to retain testosterone. Yes. God's way is the best for us all around. “The national anthem of Hell is 'I did it my way.” --Peter Kreeft[/quote]sorry you find it disturbing. Its just helps as an incenitive not to do it. I know #1 should be not doing it cause it offends God. So ya I guess you're right but at the same time I have a hard time feeling guilt for this sin cause I don't watch porn or anything like that. And to be honest sometime it feels like it needs to be relaeased to the point its tough not too. You're a male you pry understand. So any incenitive helps not to do it. Ok way to much detail. It will be really embaressing if I ever come to one of these phatmass meetups. lol o well. Edited November 30, 2011 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) And the prostate thing is crazy. Wow. Hope that's not true. It pry is true though. Edited November 30, 2011 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) And thanks for the props on the post where I said why I started this thread. I made a thread last year about not having sex for 3 years. I made it in january it was actually a classic funny thread. lol and I will bump it in jauary when its 4 years since I haven't had sex. Anyhow that thread actually helped me not have sex when I was tempted this year. I wanted to be able to bump that thread and if I had sex I wouldn't be able too. But this thread is kinda different and I pry shouldn't of started it. Although at least some truth came out of it and mabey someone will read this and realise it is a mortal sin and it needs to be confessed. Edited November 30, 2011 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1322651901' post='2342588'] sorry you find it disturbing. Its just helps as an incenitive not to do it. I know #1 should be not doing it cause it offends God. So ya I guess you're right but at the same time I have a hard time feeling guilt for this sin cause I don't watch porn or anything like that. And to be honest sometime it feels like it needs to be relaeased to the point its tough not too. You're a male you pry understand. So any incenitive helps not to do it. Ok way to much detail. It will be really embaressing if I ever come to one of these phatmass meetups. lol o well. [/quote] Yes. It is great to have concrete things to give you incentives, but keep God's will included. I admire your honesty. Always be honest with yourself. You say you don't look at porn and such, but reflect on what images are you picturing in your head during. God bless you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 i keep reading this as 'delivery' as a noun, not Delivery as a person, and every time i read it like that, it's disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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