AccountDeleted Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 [quote name='Totus Tuus' timestamp='1322455547' post='2341488'] I think it depends on the person. With a sin this difficult to overcome, having accountability - even if it's public - might be a good idea. I don't think there's anything immoral about sharing it publicly as far as causing scandal. I could be wrong about that, but at this point in my life it seems to me that coming out into the open with our faults takes such humility that to go back into that fault is going to be more shameful and therefore there's more motivation not to. [/quote] Be interesting to see if this is proved true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totus Tuus Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1322456077' post='2341497'] Be interesting to see if this is proved true. [/quote] It's proved true in mine and many other lives... but like I said, it depends on the person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 [quote name='Totus Tuus' timestamp='1322456197' post='2341498'] It's proved true in mine and many other lives... but like I said, it depends on the person.[/quote] Anything that works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 [quote name='MissyP89' timestamp='1322455216' post='2341478'] This. I am 100% in favor of public confessions like this -- I think they're beautiful, and do so much for bringing darkness into light. BUT I think prudence is necessary in everything, too. May have been better suited for the 18+ phorum. As to the OP: Delivery Boy, God bless you. You are NOT alone in this fight, I promise you. Come up with a plan of what you'll do when you're tempted -- think of every situation you might be in and think of a way out. And definitely don't give up at 3 weeks! It may take longer to settle down. Be patient and hang in there. [/quote] I see your point but I would hate to see anyone get rubbed the wrong way because we were too open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 im not sure how this topic is actually adult, given the high numbers of boys who start 'polishing the torpedo' as young as twelve. that bit of pedantry aside, there is no reason this thread cant exist, but i still think it is about as weird as talking about weird sex stuff having dinner with your grandparents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnneLine Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I'll join in praying for you, Delivery Boy. I will also add that my confessor has often reminded me to ADD a GOOD habit when you are trying to STOP a BAD habit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrestia Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1322456077' post='2341497'] Be interesting to see if this is proved true.[/quote] It's definitely true for me. (I live in a small town. One of the reasons that I choose to remain a reader at my church, even when I'm really struggling, is that I know people will recognize me everywhere I go. Whether I'm running around at work, eating in a local restaurant, chilling out at a pub, or shopping, random people that I don't know personally recognize me from church - and they point it out.) This is a Catholic forum & DB is being open about wanting to overcome a sinful habit. I wish he was receiving more support from this community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 if i'm not mistaken, one of the steps of overcoming habitual sins like alcohol, masturbation, etc., is to be open about it. Satan wants it covered and hidden, he wants the shame to keep it a secret. But once you tell someone, or someones, then it is no longer a hidden sin... and you are held more accountable by those you have told... like jaime said, perhaps a little more tact could have been exercised, but at the same time, we are all praying for DB, and that really foils the devil's plans... hahahahhahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totus Tuus Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 [quote name='jaime' timestamp='1322453376' post='2341452'] I can see Adam's point but I also think that this is a site visited by a lot of younger folk. On one hand we should talk about sin openly, on the other hand there are more tactful ways of saying things. I guess I'm really pulled in a lot of directions on this one. [/quote] I always tell parents of kids I know who are interested in PM what the content is. I know not all parents have that advantage, but I would be trying to monitor the sites my kids signed up for, especially if they were below high school age. I have a hard time figuring out why the parents of 11 and 12 year olds let their kids sign up for PM, personally. This thread is by far not one of the most offensive to a kid... there are so many threads about sex-related topics. Not to be crude, but masturbation is probably a lot more familiar to an adolescent on PM than sex itself, and I think that talking about it openly here might actually help form a young boy (or girl) who doesn't realize how wrong it is. Still, I don't think kids that young should be on PM at all. But the sex-related topics (prostitution, whatever) seem like they could do a lot more ruining of innocence than this topic, I think. I'm not disagreeing with you... just trying to give an alternative view. There's nothing we can do about the fact that really young kids ARE on PM, but I wouldn't allow my kiddo on here until at least after they were in high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Either way, DB is getting much prayers and encouragement. Also, PM just may be a young person's only opportunity to 'hear' the Truth on this subject matter. That being said, we all need to choose our words wisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1322493156' post='2341589'] Either way, DB is getting much prayers and encouragement. Also, PM just may be a young person's only opportunity to 'hear' the Truth on this subject matter. That being said, we all need to choose our words wisely. [/quote] 'choose our words wisely' I like that. I have to admit I even hate the word 'masturbation'. I don't know why - maybe the concept, the sin, whatever - it just seems such an ugly word. But yes, we are all in support of DB's efforts and we want to support him and let young people know that this act is a mortal sin. To most of the world it isn't, you know. And we are just the 'uptight' Catholics. But the reality is that it is an offence against purity and chastity. So if there are young people reading here, perhaps they will come to understand that and more than one good will have been done, supporting DB and educating the young about a particular sin. I hope so anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 [quote name='MissyP89' timestamp='1322455216' post='2341478'] This. I am 100% in favor of public confessions like this -- I think they're beautiful, and do so much for bringing darkness into light. BUT I think prudence is necessary in everything, too. May have been better suited for the 18+ phorum. As to the OP: Delivery Boy, God bless you. You are NOT alone in this fight, I promise you. Come up with a plan of what you'll do when you're tempted -- think of every situation you might be in and think of a way out. And definitely don't give up at 3 weeks! It may take longer to settle down. Be patient and hang in there. [/quote] Is the fact that people in our society masturbate really something that the younger teens on this forum need to be protected from? DB didn't really go into any disturbing detail. He told us that he masturbates, which a solid majority of men do, and that he intends to stop. I agree that the post was weird, but it hardly seems vulgar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 What I find most disturbing is the reason for not masturbating, to retain protein. [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1322493729' post='2341598'] 'choose our words wisely' I like that. I have to admit I even hate the word 'masturbation'. I don't know why - maybe the concept, the sin, whatever - it just seems such an ugly word. But yes, we are all in support of DB's efforts and we want to support him and let young people know that this act is a mortal sin. To most of the world it isn't, you know. And we are just the 'uptight' Catholics. But the reality is that it is an offence against purity and chastity. So if there are young people reading here, perhaps they will come to understand that and more than one good will have been done, supporting DB and educating the young about a particular sin. I hope so anyway. [/quote] Pehaps we could call it doing the 'self unmentionable'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrestia Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1322511147' post='2341741'] What I find most disturbing is the reason for not masturbating, to retain protein. [/quote] I actually [i]love[/i] the fact that following the Lord's path for us has both spiritual and physical (practical outside of religious belief) benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totus Tuus Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1322511147' post='2341741'] What I find most disturbing is the reason for not masturbating, to retain protein. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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