missionseeker Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 How can you say that you are chaste and yet it is a grave sin. Sin is not good. Sexual sin is not chaste. The two ARE mutually exclusive. I would hate to think that after how hard I have worked and how much pain I've been through regarding chastity that NO guy on earth has even made half an effort to be chaste. Heck, if we're going to say doing unchaste things because they are "normal" and still say we are chaste, why even bother to try? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) Ok then I'm not chaste because I struggle with masturbation. I mise well just go out and have sex then. That's what I will do. And I'm sure there are so many catholic men who never masturbate and are so chaste and holy and perfect. Edited November 17, 2011 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='missionseeker' timestamp='1321523975' post='2337330'] How can you say that you are chaste and yet it is a grave sin. Sin is not good. Sexual sin is not chaste. The two ARE mutually exclusive. I would hate to think that after how hard I have worked and how much pain I've been through regarding chastity that NO guy on earth has even made half an effort to be chaste. Heck, if we're going to say doing unchaste things because they are "normal" and still say we are chaste, why even bother to try? [/quote] You try, dear brother, because you love God and seek not to offend him through sin. I applaud your efforts to remain chaste, especially in the face of a world where this act is considered 'normal' and not sinful by many. Your efforts must be most pleasing to God simply because they are so difficult to make. I know that there are women who face this issue as well, but it does seem to be particularly difficult for most men. Therefore the glory in avoiding this sin is all the greater. Keep on with your efforts. As St Paul said, the hardships of this life are not to be compared with the glories that await us in heaven. Prayers for your continued fight against the sins of the flesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 And getting drunk is a grave sin but that's fine. Its joked about here. Heck there is even the cute avator with the drunk wasted guy drinking beers or whateve. And btw I love phatmass and all of you. lol I'm not hating. Alright. Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1321524389' post='2337331'] Ok then I'm not chaste because I struggle with masturbation. I mise well just go out and have sex then. That's what I will do. And I'm sure there are so many catholic men who never masturbate and are so chaste and holy and perfect. [/quote] As long as there is a struggle against the sins of the flesh, you are succeeding. It is when you accept them as 'normal' and make excuses for them that you have lost the fight. And no, going out to have sex is not less of a sin - nor should you be thinking of just giving up and substituting one sin for another. Fight the good fight. This may be your 'thorn in the flesh' that you have to fight. St Paul should be an inspiration to you simply because he talks about doing things we do not want to do, and failing to do the things we do want to do. Every effort is pleasing to God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1321524441' post='2337332'] You try, dear brother, because you love God and seek not to offend him through sin. I applaud your efforts to remain chaste, especially in the face of a world where this act is considered 'normal' and not sinful by many. Your efforts must be most pleasing to God simply because they are so difficult to make. I know that there are women who face this issue as well, but it does seem to be particularly difficult for most men. Therefore the glory in avoiding this sin is all the greater. Keep on with your efforts. As St Paul said, the hardships of this life are not to be compared with the glories that await us in heaven. Prayers for your continued fight against the sins of the flesh. [/quote] I AM a girl... lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='missionseeker' timestamp='1321524717' post='2337335'] I AM a girl... lol. [/quote] No joke? wow - and here I though I had found a male who didn't fit the profile of being totally unable to live without some sexual release! Oh I do apologise for the assumption but I guess the gist is the same - great efforts!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1321524821' post='2337336'] No joke? wow - and here I though I had found a male who didn't fit the profile of being totally unable to live without some sexual release! Oh I do apologise for the assumption but I guess the gist is the same - great efforts!! [/quote] No joke, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) I'm just saying I've turned down sex and certain situations that were very tough. Because I may masturbate I think its unfair to judge me and say I'm unchaste when I haven't had sex in 5 years. I would like to see how many catholic men priest and religious figures included who haven't masturbated and struggled with the sin. I wonder how many people are really CHASTE when you set the bar so high. Just keeping it REAL. Edited November 17, 2011 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1321524576' post='2337333'] And getting drunk is a grave sin but that's fine. Its joked about here. Heck there is even the cute avator with the drunk wasted guy drinking beers or whateve. And btw I love phatmass and all of you. lol I'm not hating. Alright. Peace. [/quote] Look, I'm through with this conversation after this post. The thread is supposed to be about porn - so sorry for the hijack everyone. We just can't use one sin to justify another.... whatever it is. I understand that alcohol can be a sin too if used to excess. But that is what is happening with sexual sins - used within the marriage for its proper purposes, sex is not a sin either. But we should be striving to avoid all sins and to repent when we fail, as being human, we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Please stay on topic. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I'm not judging. But I think in a very analytical way, especially when it comes to language and ideas. It is hard for me to reconcile to juxtaposing thoughts as harmonic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Ok sorry for derailing. Porn is sick and masturbation is a grave sin to be avoided and confessed. Goodnight and Godbless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthephysicist Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Sorry for again derailing, but this needs to be said. I came back to the Church early this year and after a few months of intense struggle, I was able to break my addictions to both porn and masturbation. I have been clean and free for just shy of 7 months now. [b]I am a man living a chaste life.[/b] It is [b][i]NOT[/i][/b] easy, but it [b][i]IS[/i][/b] possible. And even though some might say I've only been living this way for a relatively short period of time, I'm already seeing the benefits of my chastity. The only way to break this addiction is to stop "sugar-coating" it and recognize that it is a matter of life and death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1321522518' post='2337325'] really? I mean, really? I don't know. I'm not a male, but are you saying that NO males are chaste? I find that very sad. I'm not saying that they don't get tempted, but do they all give in? really? [/quote] i said that that saying isnt very far off, not that it is 100% true. there are men who dont masturbate on a regular basis, and those who havent in a long time. statistically, i doubt they account for much though. but if you take that saying as in past tense, either has or has not ever masturbated, you are going to be pretty beaver dam close to 100% it is just the way it is, right or wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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