sixpence Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 So I have been reading the diary of St. Faustina and I came across this word today. Can anyone define "transconsecration"? The only references that I can find online simply give the rest of the paragraph in the diary as an explanation. Here it is if it is helpful: "Suddenly, when I had consented to the sacrifice with all my heart and all my will, God's presence pervaded me. My soul became immersed in God and was inundated with such happiness that I cannot put in writing even the smallest part of it. I felt that His Majesty was enveloping me. I was extraordinarily fused with God. I saw that God was well pleased with me and, reciprocally, my spirit drowned itself in Him. Aware of this union with God, I felt I was especially loved and, in turn, I loved with all my soul. A great mystery took place during that adoration, a mystery between the Lord and myself. It seemed to me that I would die of love [at the sight of] His glance. I spoke much with the Lord, without uttering a single word. And the Lord said to me,[b] You are the delight of My Heart; from today on, every one of your acts, even the very smallest, will be a delight to My eyes, whatever you do.[/b] At that moment I felt [u]transconsecrated[/u]. My earthly body was the same, but my soul was different; God was now living in it with the totality of His delight. This is not a feeling, but a conscious reality that nothing can obscure." Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Could it mean a transformative consecration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithLuin Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I think it sounds like she is saying that she was infused with Jesus' divine life in a unique way, but... 1) I don't know enough about mystical experiences to understand what she's talking about. 2) No one else seems to use this word, as the only references google picked up were to this passage. 3) It's a translation from the Polish. So, good luck with interpreting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisvilleFan Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 [quote name='sixpence' timestamp='1319053883' post='2323839'] At that moment I felt [u]transconsecrated[/u]. My earthly body was the same, but my soul was different; God was now living in it with the totality of His delight. [/quote] From the context, I'd say she's describing her experience by relating it to transubstantiation, in which the "earthly body" of bread remains the same, but the unseen substance or "soul" is changed. In a sense, she's being poetic, so I wouldn't try to read too much theology into the word, but this kind of unseen transformation occurs for those who are open to grace at Mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 [quote name='LouisvilleFan' timestamp='1319864719' post='2328494'] From the context, I'd say she's describing her experience by relating it to transubstantiation, in which the "earthly body" of bread remains the same, but the unseen substance or "soul" is changed. In a sense, she's being poetic, so I wouldn't try to read too much theology into the word, but this kind of unseen transformation occurs for those who are open to grace at Mass. [/quote] I was going to say transfiguration may be a medatative point as to what she meant, but i like your synopsis better God bless you all,Onward christian souls. JC "seek and ye shall find,knock and the door will be opened." "anyone whom speaks in my name can eventually do no evil." "be batised and believe and you will be saved." "anyone whom eats of my flesh or drinks of my blood will be saved." St Paul "persistance bears fruits of hope." "how i wish you all to be prophets." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbTherese Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 [quote] so I wouldn't try to read too much theology into the word [/quote] Good point. I think St Faustina explains what she means by "transconsecrated" immediately after using the word: "At that moment I felt [u][u]transconsecrated[/u][/u]. [i][b]My earthly body was the same, but my soul was different; God was now living in it with the totality of His delight. This is not a feeling, but a conscious reality that nothing can obscure[/b][/i]" Mystics, I think, have a very personally unique and quite rare experience that for the rest of us mortals can find impossible to understand precisely, while nevertheless holding that what they describe they have experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 This reminds me a little of St Teresa's 'transverberation' (being pierced through). Sometimes there are no words to describe something without using words that no one else really understands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nola Seminarian Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 [quote name='sixpence' timestamp='1319053883' post='2323839'] So I have been reading the diary of St. Faustina and I came across this word today. Can anyone define "transconsecration"? The only references that I can find online simply give the rest of the paragraph in the diary as an explanation. Here it is if it is helpful: "Suddenly, when I had consented to the sacrifice with all my heart and all my will, God's presence pervaded me. My soul became immersed in God and was inundated with such happiness that I cannot put in writing even the smallest part of it. I felt that His Majesty was enveloping me. I was extraordinarily fused with God. I saw that God was well pleased with me and, reciprocally, my spirit drowned itself in Him. Aware of this union with God, I felt I was especially loved and, in turn, I loved with all my soul. A great mystery took place during that adoration, a mystery between the Lord and myself. It seemed to me that I would die of love [at the sight of] His glance. I spoke much with the Lord, without uttering a single word. And the Lord said to me,[b] You are the delight of My Heart; from today on, every one of your acts, even the very smallest, will be a delight to My eyes, whatever you do.[/b] At that moment I felt [u]transconsecrated[/u]. My earthly body was the same, but my soul was different; God was now living in it with the totality of His delight. This is not a feeling, but a conscious reality that nothing can obscure." Thanks [/quote] stumps me, but i will ask my friend who has a great devotion to St Faustina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nola Seminarian Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 i asked him, but he was stumped too, next option is to ask my spiritual director Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 [quote name='MithLuin' timestamp='1319055856' post='2323871'] 3) It's a translation from the Polish. So, good luck with interpreting... [/quote] That in itself should tell you something. She more than likely made a word up for that part, which is going to make translation next to impossible in any accurate way. You'll get this alot with languages from Eastern Europe. This is why, for example, certain passages from such notables as Kant can become virtually impossible to understand. He would sometimes just make up words which would only serve to obfuscate the text in translation. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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