i<3franciscans Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 What do you guys and galls think of the Charismatic Renewal? Almost everyone I know finds it nutty and I want some outside opinions/insights. Since the last few popes approved of the movement, I don't think that it is wrong, but I believe you have to be careful about it. I am quite undecided... as I said, I see nothing wrong with it, but I have no support and not alot of info on it. So, what do y'all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 In before the move to Debate Table. I'm undecided on it; I've been to some Charismatic Nights of Worship and Festivals of Praise. They were definitely different than Protestant "charismatic" things I had been to in undergrad. Things were more reverent, the tongues more subdued, no one flopping around like they were having a seizure. I've been prayed over by some Franciscan friars at one such event, and a more than decade long hatred and loathing of my father was removed. But whether that was due to it being a Charismatic event, or something else is up to interpretation. Both charismatics and non-charismatics, if they're being loyal to the teachings of the Church, would say that it was God's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 KILL THIS THREAD ASAP! sorry, but if you want information about the Charismatic Movement, this really isn't the place, and this debate (and it will become a debate) has happened far too many times here. This thread will slowly devolve in a argument where feelings will get hurt, little will be learned, and ultimately, the thread will be closed. Why don't we just skip to the last step now? That being said, I've attended a number of Charismatic Events and I attend a school that many would label as Charismatic (Franciscan University). So I would say that, while I definitely don't identify myself as Charismatic, I am fairly sympathetic to the movement. I would say that alot of good has come out of it, but like many things, it can lead people away from what they should focus on. I know many people that actively seek the Charismatic gifts, and I think this leads them away from focusing on what is truly important. However, I think that this is not the fault of the Charismatic movement, rather, it is the fault of individual people. I'll try and find like to some old threads about this, with much more information than I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 here is the last thread on the topic [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/topic/114662-charismatic-catholics-theology-debate/"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/topic/114662-charismatic-catholics-theology-debate/[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I wrote this, since it comes up here all the time: [url="http://catecheticsonline.com/?p=544"]http://catecheticsonline.com/?p=544[/url] Charismatic Catholics are not nutty. They are open to having a deep and thriving relationship with the Holy Spirit. It is no more nutty than the spirituality of the mystics and great saints of the Church. There may be nutty things that happen out there, but generalizing the renewal as nutty is inappropriate. The charismatic parish in our diocese has more vocations to the priesthood than all of our other parishes combined. They are also the most committed, devoted, and con servative Catholics in our diocese, on equal footing with our extraordinary form parish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I went once and it wasn't my type of spirituality but that's just me personally. Father Cantalamessa is charismatic... I respect him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regina_coeli Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Just like learning styles in school, just like charisms for religious orders, one size doesn't fit all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaPetiteSoeur Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 We all have different ways of relating to God. I was never really exposed to the Charismatic movement, but some people I know really relate to God in that way. It works for them. My prayer life and spiritual life work for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlySunshine Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 While I appreciate the fact that it works for some people and they prefer that kind of worship, I don't particularly find it attractive. I like the more traditional style worship -- the kind I was raised with. My parish suits me 100%. I used to think ill of the Charismatic Renewal, but I don't anymore, especially since reading that Bl. John Paul II spoke highly of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandelynmarie Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) I went to FUS for one year in the '90's. (I had decided to go there, before I became Catholic in a private ceremony that previous July, very long story!) So I had never heard of the Charismatic Renewal & had no clue what was going on. Example, during the Great Amen of the first mass I went to I heard the most beautiful singing. I later asked a friend of mine what page that hymn was on in the missalette. She laughed & said, "Oh! That wasn't a hymn! We were singing in tongues!" Wow...okaaaay. Later that Fall I did receive Baptism in the Spirit. I did experience healing & I witnessed the growth of many spiritual fruits. But as in anything, some people went from one extreme to another as it is very easy to be caught up in the emotionalism of it all. I believe one must be very grounded in the Faith in order to best appreciate the Charimatic Renewal. Nowadays, if I happen upon a Charimatic mass or prayer group, I have no problem joining in, but it is not something I am involved in on a regular basis. Edited October 17, 2011 by brandelynmarie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Generally it's not my thing, but I'll go to a charismatic praise and worship style gathering every once in a while (Franciscan FOP anyone?). I was first introduced to it by a good friend whose whole family was pretty into it, and a bunch of her friends from a local parish run by Dominicans were into it too. Wonderfully devoted Catholics; my friend is now a Poor Claire in Los Altos, CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Not this shard again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides quarens intellectum Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 By all means, read up on the other threads, but i did want to comment on something - the community pictured in your avatar considers itself to be a fruit of the charismatic movement. They are not as directly involved anymore as they were when they began, but they credit the movement for helping them in the beginning. That's all. Happy reading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i<3franciscans Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 Thank you all for responding!! I was going to put this on the Debate Table, but I didn't want a debate and I didn't want anyone to be offended. I just was curious of your opinions. I am going to read up more on it like some of you suggested. I am quite indebted to the charismatic movement for my vocation really, but that is a really long story for another time. I am trying to get up the courage to tell my parents everything, but like I said they find it really wierd so I was in need of some affirmation that I was not insane for thinking it was alright. Thank you so so much! Please keep me in your prayers!!! Peace, fran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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