Bowing During Nicene Creed In Mass

[BG45]

[quote name='Archaeology cat' timestamp='1321926310' post='2339215']
I've seen it (and do it). I've noticed in the hand-outs about the new missal that it actually says to strike the breast right there in the missal.
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amesome! We're going to have cards explaining everything on Sunday

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='MissyP89' timestamp='1321913418' post='2339136']
I feel like this is in the same vein as striking your chest during the Confiteor (when it's actually said ).

I'm wondering if it will come back when the new Missal is rolled out, since we'll be saying "through my fault, through my fault" etc.
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The corrected translation is a bit more conducive to that. People like us have to lead the way on that one.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1321910010' post='2339124']
I don't understand why I'd never even heard of it until I read it in the missal myself. I still feel kind of let down about that. You'd think they'd have thought to mention it, either when I did first Communion, first Confession, trained for altar serving, did Confirmation classes...? Nope. Never.
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yeah, i mean, i don't get that either...but for those who follow along in the missal, why don't they do it? it's written right there. :/

[MissyP89]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1321931346' post='2339266']
The corrected translation is a bit more conducive to that. People like us have to lead the way on that one.
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Just don't hurt yourself.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1321941213' post='2339343']
yeah, i mean, i don't get that either...but for those who follow along in the missal, why don't they do it? it's written right there. :/
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Maybe this is more common in my diocese, but very few people actually use the missals or missalettes for the Pauline Mass. Off the top of my head I can only think of one person at my former parish who uses one, and from what I remember it was usually the oldest parishioners (maybe those used to the traditional Mass?). Regular church-going Catholics are so used to the Order of the Mass that a missal seems redundant. Given that, maybe the corrected translation will help that as well.


Another thing that occurred to me this morning is how genuflecting during the Creed has helped me in my understanding of the Incarnation in the liturgical context. I'm looking specifically at three of the moments where we kneel: during the Incarnation lines in the Creed, during the Canon, and at "and the Word was made flesh" in the Last Gospel. (Obviously there are a few more, but I'll only deal with these three for now.)
For the Creed and the Last Gospel, we kneel in commemoration of the Incarnation that was a real historical event in a certain time and place, and then at the Canon and the Consecration we're kneeling for the Incarnation that transcends time and is made fully present in front of us. It's natural for us to link these three liturgical moments because of the posture we adopt, and that naturally pulls the historical aspect of Jesus' birth out of its time constraints and shows to us that, rather than being two Incarnations, one in the past, and one for all time in the Consecration, it's all in fact one transcendent radical Moment in which the Word is truly flesh in the world. All historical events, His birth, His Transfiguration, His Death, His Resurrection, are all ways in which He reveals to us how He is truly Man, Incarnate for us at all times and all places.
Just a bit of speculation I guess. Still need to work that out a bit. Tentatively, I think that's an acceptable way to look at it.

Edited November 22, 2011 by Nihil Obstat

[Adrestia]

I think a majority of the people in my parish bow during the creed (hard to say b/c I'm bowing). We also have a group that strike their breast during the Agnus Dei, strike their breast during the Confiteor, and/or cross themselves during the Kyrie Eleison.

When I was a kid I purposefully did not bow during the consecration because I didn't want to miss it. I'm glad that my mom realized that I was in awe and not just being stubborn.

[MarysLittleFlower]

I thought that in the new Mass, it's in the rubrics that people should bow at those lines of the Nicene Creed... people don't, at my parish, but I still do it because I do find it helpful. when I go to the Latin Mass, everyone kneels for that part.

[his_remnant]

Yes it is a devotion for me.
I bow lower than everyone else around me is that weird??

[got2luvjc]

[quote name='sixpence' timestamp='1318283208' post='2319320']
i guess i was being a bad catholic... i had never looked up the meaning behind it til now, though I had always meant to! Thanks for the reminder!
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same boat for me! There are a few things that during mass / through the church I follow/do without a thorough understanding of 'why', but I trust the Church's authority so I do it anyways until I get that understanding

[Katiebobatie94]

i honestly never did it until i became an alatr server in 7th grade, and at the time i was only doing because everyone else was and i didn't wanna look like the odd one out, but now it has become a devotion for me and is something i believe in doing not because i dnt wat to look weird but because those 3 lines are the 3 rasons we were saved and thats something that needs to be reverenced.