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IcePrincessKRS

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1317930134' post='2316697']

but they are being backed by unions and Democrats (many of them are). :unsure: and now i can't find the link that talks about it. sorry!
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Yeah, that's true. I know they are being backed by the teacher's union and a couple others. I can't remember which ones because I haven't been paying that close attention, I just hear whatever news Matt is watching behind me.

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LaPetiteSoeur

[quote name='Norseman82' timestamp='1317861112' post='2315840']
Apparently they are in Chicago as well:

[url="http://occupychi.org/"]http://occupychi.org/[/url]
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There's talk about one in NOLA this weekend, too.

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[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1317930134' post='2316697']

but they are being backed by unions and Democrats (many of them are). :unsure: and now i can't find the link that talks about it. sorry!
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No problem! They're being backed by everyone almost if you use that definition though of groups showing up to offer support. [url="http://imgur.com/GmSFY"]Veterans [/url]are marching on Wall Street, therefore Occupy Wall Street is backed by [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBbHE5IIrxs"]veterans[/url]. [url="http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20110929/FINANCE/110929865"]Union [/url]members are marching on Wall Street, therefore unions back Occupy Wall Street. Democrats are marching on Wall Street, therefore Democrats back Occupy Wall Street. [url="http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/185081-paul-offers-support-for-anti-fed-occupy-wall-street-protestors"]Republicans [/url]are marching on Wall Street, therefore [url="http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/43730"]Republicans [/url]back Occupy Wall Street.

The organizers have actively been turning down donations of money and are instead asking for donations of warm clothes for the winter. Also in one story that was pretty interesting to me to come out of it, a Democrat and a Republican, both city council members, decided to go look at it for themselves and ended up running into each other [url="http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/culture/2011/10/3610734/democrat-and-republican-walk-occupy-wall-street-demonstration-have-d"]and holding a supposedly impromptu civil debate in the streets.[/url] The Democrats would be stupid not to embrace the chance this has handed them on a silver platter, [url="http://www.businessinsider.com/democrats-tap-into-occupy-wall-street-protests-attack-republicans-for-bank-ties-2011-10"]which they have begun to.[/url] At the same time, I'd be wary if [url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/why-occupy-wall-street-and-democrats-arent-natural-allies/2011/10/05/gIQAYuvyNL_blog.html"]I were them to think of Occupy Wall Street as allies[/url], the protesters are just as angry at them as they are anyone else.

Apologies for no link to the word Democrats in the first paragraph; all I could find was people going on left wing news sites "we need to hop on the bandwagon now that they got it rolling" and right wing news sites claiming it's all a big conspiracy by the Democrats.

Edit: Every link leads to a different video, picture, or news article. My question is, will the Occupy Wall Street movement become the left wing equivalent of the Tea Party? If in youtube videos, none of them are very educated about why they are there, or are mistaken about historical facts, then it sounds exactly like the Tea Party rally I attended to see if it lived up to the liberal propaganda about it, and it did.

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the link I was talking about was an in-depth link about how the Occupy Wall Street group was founded last year and is funded by George Soros. geez, i wish i could find it. i'm going searching, brb.

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[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1317933893' post='2316739']
the link I was talking about was an in-depth link about how the Occupy Wall Street group was founded last year and is funded by George Soros. geez, i wish i could find it. i'm going searching, brb.
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Which still wouldn't be that unsurprising. :) Nor would I be surprised if it turned around and bit the hand that fed it like the Tea Party did to the GOP where they started threatening John Boehner politically if he didn't do as they demanded.

Edit: If you do find it, feel free to post it. I'm trying to take the middle ground of "wait and see". Even if Soros originally backed it, I think the internet has made it take on a life all its own. Reddit continues to be a nice source of stuff on it from both sides; but due to certain scandalous material I'm never linking directly there.

Edit2: Red would this be the link? [url="http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/9269-big-soros-money-linked-to-occupy-wall-street"]Big Soros Money Linked to "Occupy Wall Street[/url]".

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aha! [url="http://adriennescatholiccorner.blogspot.com/2011/10/whos-funding-bunch-of-losers-to-sit.html"]here's[/url] where i found [url="http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2011/10/faces-of-occupy-wall-street-moms.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2FCnSK+%28JammieWearingFool%29&utm_content=Google+Reader"]this link[/url]. I misspoke, it wasn't started last year. My bad! :)
[quote]A bootcamp for social change? Critics have no clue what's happening? Uh, we know exactly what's happening: A failed effort being engineered by Obama and his Occupier Democrats to distract us from his abysmal record and myriad scandals.

It's not working. It would be nice instead of slobbering over these nitwits that the media did a little digging into [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/10/05/2011-10-05_big_money_in_wall_st_protest_cash_coming_in_from_around_the_world.html"]who's funding this[/url].
[quote]Internet pledges arrive via two main websites: occupywallst.org was registered July 14, two months before the demonstrations began, by a Los Angeles privacy service that shields the owner's identity.


The second, nycga.cc, was registered Sept. 11 by Brooklyn resident Vladimir Teichberg, records show.

The Alliance for Global Justice, a nonprofit with 501c3 status, helped Occupy Wall Street to collect tax-exempt donations and open a credit union account to centralize funds.

The Washington-based organization's most recent 2009 tax return has revenues of $843,547, including contributions and grants of $789,509, records show.[/quote]

Alliance for Global Justice, huh? Funny, but 10 seconds of research leads us directly to none of than [url="http://www.undueinfluence.com/open_society_institute.htm"]George Soros[/url] and his Open Society Institute. These folks also show solidarity with Marxist regimes in [url="http://afgj.org/?page_id=560"]Nicaragua and Venezuela[/url]. But remember, this is just some spontaneous grassroots movement in response to the Tea Party or something.[/quote]

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[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1317912929' post='2316119']
They are idiots asking for more corporatism to defeat corporatism.
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[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1317913049' post='2316120']
Accuracy.

[url="http://reason.com/archives/2011/10/05/occupy-wall-street-a-manifesto"]http://reason.com/ar...eet-a-manifesto[/url]
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Geez, Winchester, why must you always insist on spoiling all the fun by throwing sanity and reason into the discussion?

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[quote name='BG45' timestamp='1317908532' post='2316065']

Holy moly, it's either a testament to me being tired last night or the state of news media in America that I called Jon Stewart "news" when even he admits he's just a comedian! But agreed, the Daily Show rocks! :)

...and did you just quote Ann Coulter from the other night? o.o
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Speaking of Ann Coulter (whom I'm well aware that most phatmassers regard as essentially Satan incarnate), her commentary on this nonsense is spot-on as usual:
"No one knows what the Wall Street protesters want -- as is typical of mobs. They say they want Obama re-elected, but claim to hate "Wall Street." You know, the same Wall Street that gave its largest campaign donation in history to Obama, who, in turn, bailed out the banks and made Goldman Sachs the fourth branch of government.

This would be like opposing fattening, processed foods, but cheering Michael Moore -- which the protesters also did this week."

Full article [url="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=46667"]here[/url].

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[quote name='BG45' timestamp='1317903690' post='2316040']
Oh the Tea Party...I saw some of their politicians on the news last night denouncing Occupy Wall Street and saying "They hate the free market and therefore they hate freedom". Ironic given the real Tea Party threw tea overboard that belonged to the mega-corp of the day...
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But the original (Boston Harbor, 1773) Tea-Partiers were protesting government taxation by the British, not the free-market or "corporations."

But no doubt such subtleties will be lost on those who get their political/economic "education" from leftist comedians.

Today's socialist/hippy protesters want higher taxes and more government intrusion. The government, and government-backed entities, by creating a bubble doomed to burst by artificial manipulation of the money supply and actively encouraging bad loans, and by artificially propping up and bailing out businesses that would fail in a free market, are the problem.

Thinking they will offer the solution is idiocy - it's the fox guarding the henhouse.

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Take home messages:

George Soros : Occupy Wall Street :: Koch Brothers : Tea Party

According to Herman Cain, I must be lazy because I'm not wealthy.

Did I miss anything?

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just this

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lqN3amj6AcE"]http://www.youtube.c...d&v=lqN3amj6AcE[/url]

0:57 - 1:22 is rather epic

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[quote name='MIkolbe' timestamp='1317941445' post='2316853']
just this

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lqN3amj6AcE"]http://www.youtube.c...d&v=lqN3amj6AcE[/url]

0:57 - 1:22 is rather epic
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2:32 - 2:47 is fantastic

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If anything, people showing up en masse to show a general displeasure with business practices is perfectly in line with free market thinking.

they have a lot to be angry at, corporate america keeps exploding and being bailed out with tax payer money, while the people are left holding the bag.

A lot of them are not asking for a redistribution of wealth, rather that Corporations should have to play by the same rules that everyone does, without the sneaky and often outright illegal stuff they get away with.

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