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Where do you draw the line in being politically correct?

I had this discussion today in one of my classes at the university.

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I understand why the need for it developed but I hate it now.... it has become an obsessive thing that has lost all common sense. I especially hate changing titles from things like chairman to chairperson....

There are some appropriate changes... from postman to mail carrier is ok, but I like fireman and policeman etc... we know there are women involved, but to change the title gets messy. I just think that more common sense should be used.

And I really hate that our Christian holidays are lost in in the pc world of secularism. When my niece's school changed their Christmas pageant to a Winter Holiday pageant and got rid of the 'religious' Christmas carols and replaced them all with secular ones like Frosty the Snowman or Jingle Bells, I was so upset. I don't mind mixing the secular ones in - they are fun, but to try to completely erase Christianity from Christmas is ridiculous.

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I am one of the least politically correct people. With that in mind, I draw the line at truth. There is right and wrong they exist. There are some ways of politely broaching subjects that are better than others. However, If there is something wrong we have to call it out lest we condone it.

I have found that when my faith is not conflicting with my daily life, there is usually a problem with how I am living my faith.

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I guess the line is somewhat dependant on the circumstances...but I see when PC-ness alters and obfuscates truth as a point to draw my line. There are some who find simple common courtesy to be PC and draw there line there or 'close to there'.

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[quote name='Papist' timestamp='1317209168' post='2311589']
There is no need for political correctness. However, there is a need for common sense.
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Maybe PC could be replaced with common sense combined with courtesy, as Mlkilbe mentions.

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[quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1317209559' post='2311592']

Maybe PC could be replaced with common sense combined with courtesy, as Mlkilbe mentions.
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Same goes for that senseless HIPAA law.

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[quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1317185310' post='2311460']
And I really hate that our Christian holidays are lost in in the pc world of secularism. When my niece's school changed their Christmas pageant to a Winter Holiday pageant and got rid of the 'religious' Christmas carols and replaced them all with secular ones like Frosty the Snowman or Jingle Bells, I was so upset. I don't mind mixing the secular ones in - they are fun, but to try to completely erase Christianity from Christmas is ridiculous.
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That would still be too religious for my mom's elementary school. They're not allowed to sing any carols, including Frosty, or decorate with anything that could be construed as religious or fantastic, including: angels, trees, snowmen, reindeer, santa, menorahs, etc. The Christmas Party is now a Winter Party, can't call it a holiday of any sort because that means holy day. This all came about because one Jewish parent complained about the word Christmas a few years ago and the administration overreacted more than a tad...all the parent wanted was Hannukah mentioned also.

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Groo the Wanderer

no line to draw. just say no to PC. man up and speak plainly and clearly. let your yes mean yes and your no mean no.

an no stupid hyphenated names or 'races' either.

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[quote name='Papist' timestamp='1317211245' post='2311598']
Same goes for that senseless HIPAA law.
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:blink:
That's a new one...

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Proud2BCatholic139

[quote name='Papist' timestamp='1317209168' post='2311589']
There is no need for political correctness. However, there is a need for common sense.
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Where is G.K. Chesterton when you need him?
If everyone read his books, we would not need PC.

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Political correctness is a difficult issue for me. Because ultimately it reminds me of 1984's newspeak, which I am not the only one to notice. The [url="http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/ns-pi.html"]newspeakdictionary [/url]for example offers some examples, some are more comical and parody than others. If you are fascinated by linguistics and communication like I am, a browsing around the modern speak section might be for you.

But political correctness is generally trying to make everyone more comfortable, I don't think there is any malicious intent behind it like newspeak, it seems to generally be a voluntary and benign effort. Despite the fact you can be criticized for not being politically correct... or being too politically correct. Which is the thing about our freedom, you can generally say a lot, but that doesn't stop people from speaking back or the state from becoming suspicious.

Which I admit, as a liberal libertarian, I find unfortunate... but that's how it is right now and I don't currently have a better solution. Tolerance, understanding, and charity seem to be key.

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[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1317214464' post='2311615']
no line to draw. just say no to PC. man up and speak plainly and clearly. let your yes mean yes and your no mean no.

an no stupid hyphenated names or 'races' either.
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[mod]Negative Criticism of other's religion- MIKolbe[/mod]

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[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1317250389' post='2311908']

[mod]Negative Criticism of other's religion- MIKolbe[/mod]
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this would make a fun thread in the lame board...

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