the lumberjack Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 [quote name='Quietfire' date='Apr 29 2004, 02:49 PM'] Lumberjack, I really do love you, brother. We may not agree with everything..but thats why we're here...to grow, right? Besides, if you did agree with me on everything......you'd be my husband! *husband* yes, dear [/quote] hahahaha...good thing then, I guess. and yeah, those Jews for Jesus yet not Christianity sound kinda wierd... ---- and thicke, yes I have...thank you. ----- and monk, [quote]If LJ truly believes with a sincere heart that he is servering God the way that Christ wants him to, then he is Christian, even though some of his beliefs are not accurate.[/quote] I love you too homie...and the same thing to you...if in your heart you believe you are serving Christ the way Christ wants you to, then you are a Christian...even though some of your beliefs are not accurate as well. thats sincere...not biting, not sarcastic...cien por ciento amor. proclaim Christ, save lives, right? and hey, if I really am wrong, sooner or later I'll be in the Catholic Church... and if not, then the people I minister to will be...so either way, its a win win situation, right? ----- thicke...[quote]I think of Lumberjack as a Christian, I believe he has Christ in his heart as evidenced by his zeal for expressing what he believes to be the truth. But, if he is baptized with the proper form, I can know him to be a Christian. Lumberjack - I love you as a brother Christian. I hope you continue to seek the truth, even if only in your own way.....[/quote] thank you brother...and I will. God bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietfire Posted April 30, 2004 Author Share Posted April 30, 2004 MAN! CAN YOU FEEL THE LOVE?!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0lar_bear Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Quietfire, You may want to check out [url="http://www.secondexodus.com"]www.secondexodus.com[/url] and [url="http://www.hebrewcatholic.org"]www.hebrewcatholic.org[/url] They are websites of organizations devoted to bringing Jews into the Church as well as helping Jewish Catholics retain their Jewish heritage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietfire Posted April 30, 2004 Author Share Posted April 30, 2004 (edited) polar, SHHHWEET Edited April 30, 2004 by Quietfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 [quote name='the lumberjack' date='Apr 29 2004, 11:27 PM'] and monk, I love you too homie...and the same thing to you...if in your heart you believe you are serving Christ the way Christ wants you to, then you are a Christian...even though some of your beliefs are not accurate as well. thats sincere...not biting, not sarcastic...cien por ciento amor. proclaim Christ, save lives, right? and hey, if I really am wrong, sooner or later I'll be in the Catholic Church... and if not, then the people I minister to will be...so either way, its a win win situation, right? [/quote] God Bless. I agree. God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master_alterserver Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 Jews that have accepted Jesus as a massiah= Messianic Jews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietfire Posted May 3, 2004 Author Share Posted May 3, 2004 master! thanks for joining my delerium!!! [quote]Jews that have accepted Jesus as a massiah= Messianic Jews.[/quote] it isnt quite that simple. If I am not mistaken...Jews4Jesus rep the Pope. This group/site that I am talking about do not rep the Pope. Putting all their past beliefs/faith aside it looks like this. They follow the old Law. (Hebrew/Jew) All of them. Saturday Sabbath, no pork, No christian holidays,etc. they celebrate passover, not easter(its pagen to them) They believe Yashua(Jesus) is the messiah. They condemn The Church AND Christianity for following its own agenda,and not following the law. Accuse us of making our own. YET-when questions arise....there mindset is that if two or more agree on something then it could be more (and they use the Bible to back that belief up.) Look, I dont go to that site for fun or cause I believe- I go there because someone whom I love very much, someone whom I would die for thinks she has 'found the truth' there. I have to leave it at that, without further explaination. Please just trust me on this and believe me when I say that its a cult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietfire Posted May 3, 2004 Author Share Posted May 3, 2004 (edited) master! thanks for joining my delerium!!! [quote]Jews that have accepted Jesus as a massiah= Messianic Jews.[/quote] it isnt quite that simple. If I am not mistaken...Jews4Jesus rep the Pope. This group/site that I am talking about do not rep the Pope. Putting all their past beliefs/faith aside it looks like this. They follow the old Law. (Hebrew/Jew) All of them. Saturday Sabbath, no pork, No christian holidays,etc. they celebrate passover, not easter(its pagen to them) They believe Yashua(Jesus) is the messiah. They condemn The Church AND Christianity for following its own agenda,and not following the law. Accuse us of making our own. YET-when questions arise....there mindset is that if two or more(of them) can agree on something then it could be true (and they use the Bible to back that belief up.) Look, I dont go to that site for fun or cause I believe- I go there because someone whom I love very much, someone whom I would die for thinks she has 'found the truth' there. I have to leave it at that, without further explaination. Please just trust me on this and believe me when I say that its a cult. Peace Edited May 3, 2004 by Quietfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietfire Posted May 3, 2004 Author Share Posted May 3, 2004 master! thanks for joining my delerium!!! [quote]Jews that have accepted Jesus as a massiah= Messianic Jews.[/quote] it isnt quite that simple. If I am not mistaken...Jews4Jesus rep the Pope. This group/site that I am talking about do not rep the Pope. Putting all their past beliefs/faith aside it looks like this. They follow the old Law. (Hebrew/Jew) All of them. Saturday Sabbath, no pork, No christian holidays,etc. they celebrate passover, not easter(its pagen to them) They believe Yashua(Jesus) is the messiah. They condemn The Church AND Christianity for following its own agenda,and not following the law. Accuse us of making our own. YET-when questions arise....there mindset is that if two or more agree on something then it could be more (and they use the Bible to back that belief up.) Look, I dont go to that site for fun or cause I believe- I go there because someone whom I love very much, someone whom I would die for thinks she has 'found the truth' there. I have to leave it at that, without further explaination. Please just trust me on this and believe me when I say that its a cult. Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_Master Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 Jews4Jesus do keep a lot of the Old Testament traditions and will not give them up. They do recognize Christians (I have worked with them). They are not Roman Catholic - they would be protestant. The Friends of Israel Gospel Ministries I went through a year program with, and they also reach out to the Jews primarily. Hananel House, and also Ammi Ministries do as well. Messianic Jews accept Jesus as their Messiah and they study Scripture because they believe Scripture to be the final authority, not an institution. I am not familiar with any group of Jews that went from Jewishness to Roman Catholicism, but as some of you have hinted at that, I'd be interested in their name. It seems a big jump to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_Master Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 (edited) repeat - can delete Edited May 3, 2004 by Circle_Master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietfire Posted May 3, 2004 Author Share Posted May 3, 2004 Circle, I stated that I could be wrong on this as far as Jews that rep the Pope. I was at a website that seemed to do that...again, I could be mistaken. Association of Hebrew Catholics. I dont know how to do the link thingy. sorry. Peace and Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietfire Posted May 3, 2004 Author Share Posted May 3, 2004 So noone knows huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_Master Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 Here you go, website for the Association of Hebrew Catholics [url="http://hebrewcatholic.org/"]http://hebrewcatholic.org/[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietfire Posted May 3, 2004 Author Share Posted May 3, 2004 Thanks for getting off the subject again, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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