rizz_loves_jesus Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 [quote name='vee8' timestamp='1314506050' post='2296216'] If a guy came in here and said he a large willy and didnt always care to wear pantz that kept it fully covered that would be....????? [/quote] ... Are you serious? You [i]honestly[/i] expect me to wear t-shirts every single day? Even to Mass? Sorry, no. I've done all I can to cover myself short of draping myself in a sheet, it's just the way my body was made. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizz_loves_jesus Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 [quote name='missionseeker' timestamp='1314506262' post='2296221'] But Rizz said nothing about not caring. And it's kind of rude to assume that she doesn't care. She said that sometimes despite TONS of effort, it's not always successful. It's not that she not trying, or that she didn't care, just that she couldn't. Also, it's a little different in that chests are much more visible than crotches. [/quote] Also, there's nothing wrong or disgusting about the female body. The misogyny in this thread is killing me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 no, i don't think this has anything to do with rizz not caring... *sigh* nevermind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizz_loves_jesus Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 (edited) [quote name='vee8' timestamp='1314506220' post='2296220'] and say he said it in a thread directed at women who struggled with impure thoughts??!?!?!? [/quote] If even mentioning my body to people who have never seen or talked to me before is tempting to you, then I... just don't even know. Edited August 28, 2011 by rizz_loves_jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 I think the TMI may be making people talk past eachother here. Oh well, I'm done. I found out most of what I came to learn, and learned not to ask about certain other things. I'm content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 As Catholics we are to avoid occasions of sin and try to avoid causing others to sin. Talking about one's body around people who struggle with lust isnt exactly helping them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 [quote name='rizz_loves_jesus' timestamp='1314506442' post='2296225'] If even mentioning my body to people who have never seen or talked to me before is tempting to you, then I... just don't even know. [/quote] Im a woman, Im not tempted by you, however you are talking about your chest around guys and I do know that guys like boobs and when you start to describe them and what you wear, well I think they like that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 vee is not tempted, cos she's a lady... i was thinking more of the men coming on here and reading about your problem with covering up yourself... i think modesty these days is in the eyes of the beholder... at least that's the conclusion i come too after reading modesty threads on phatmass... some of you are very open about your curves, your breasts, etc. and struggling with men lusting after you... but i think that sometimes even mentioning such things can tempt men. I hope and pray that as catholics we come to an understanding about real modesty...because its not something preached about from the podium at Mass anymore, and it should be... and Modesty is not just in the way we dress, its in the way we think, its the way we speak about ourselves, its in the way we write about ourselves... things have to be balanced, we don't need to take things to extremes (ie. wearing a refrigerator carton seems to be the ongoing joke) but there is a great responsibility on everyone's part to not be the cause of sin for anyone (that goes for women and men.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 This thread got weird. I'm a guy and Rizz did not turn me on with her post. I actually felt bad for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizz_loves_jesus Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 If I'd described my body in detail, that would be one thing. Providing a first-hand account of how people can be a little too judgmental about modesty is another thing entirely. Look, I'm sorry if my post caused lustful thoughts to enter into anyone's mind. I think that's really weird if it did, but I'm sorry nonetheless. My intention wasn't to appear sexy or to tempt anyone. I just wanted to point it out because some people (such as my ex) can be really ridiculous about modesty and being uncharitable to women who legitimately try. He was incredibly rude told me that I was "too seductive," even though my clothing was not revealing [i]at all[/i] except for when I leaned over. I'm not trying to cause lust. I'm not being immodest. I'm telling guys who are really hardcore about expecting women to cover up to be a little understanding toward each woman's unique situation. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 [quote name='jaime (the artist formerly known as hot stuff)' timestamp='1314507154' post='2296232'] This thread got weird. I'm a guy and Rizz did not turn me on with her post. I actually felt bad for her. [/quote] I love you for saying that. Just so the thread gets weirder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 [quote name='Maximilianus' timestamp='1314506111' post='2296217'] Oh great, now we are going to be yellow again. [/quote] great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximilianus Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Yeah that's right, this is the epitome of modest clothing for men... but I fear that even the ladies swoon when they see a fella like this [img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/---2SxSx2O3w/TZiDlBVL4LI/AAAAAAAAAyc/iOOQDGcBHv0/s1600/leisuresuit.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 if a man can't hear "I haz big boobies" without going off into a lustful frenzy, there is something really really wrong. I know that we should be mindful of people's struggles but we can't pander to them so much as to solidify the way they think. I can't say exactly what I mean without writing a beaver dam near essay so I'll just leave it at that but this thread has gotten so weird this is probs gonna be the last post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 (edited) [quote name='vee8' timestamp='1314503275' post='2296174'] tmi....As Catholics we are to avoid occasions of sin and try to avoid causing others to sin. Talking about one's body around people who struggle with lust isnt exactly helping them. [/quote] Listen, if a guy struggles with purity because the subject of breasts arose in conversation then that is his problem. If he is so hyper-sexual that he cannot be virtuous because of the very mention of breasts in an intellectual conversation about modesty then the proper response is prayers for him, not to chastise the person who was trying to say that there will be times when even the most modest person is not fully veiled. Rizz was simply making the point that women often do the best they can and it is up to Christian men to respect them in the cases where it is just not possible to be veil everything. No one is perfectly modest. It is, on those rare occasions when--due to circumstances not completely in the woman's control--that even the most modest person may not cover [i]everything, [/i]that the man must respect the woman and not objectify or mock them for the way God created the woman to image Him. To chastise Rizz for trying to make such a point and using personal examples of how men failed her in this respect is puritanical. Women do the best they can and men should respect them no matter the circumstances. Edited August 28, 2011 by Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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