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Moses Didn't Part The Sea. It Was Just Really Windy.


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I don't even know how I found this. But new research shows, that it was wind which was the reason the sea parted.


[quote]Carl Drews, a software engineer studying a weather phenomenon known as "wind set-down" has used a computer model to simulate how Moses may have witnessed the "parting of the sea" on his exodus out of Egypt.

Moses is an important religious figure in Judaism, Christianity and Islam, too. Now science has provided a convincing theory for the rest of us, as to how Moses was able to lead the Hebrew people out of Egypt and across the Red Sea.

The biblical account describes high winds gusting through the night prior to the escape route being uncovered. Drews matches the descriptions of the local geography to come up with a computer model that resulted in the "miracle" being readily duplicated[/quote]

[url="http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/inspired/religions/wind-may-have-aided-moses.html"]http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/inspired/religions/wind-may-have-aided-moses.html[/url]

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faithcecelia

I had heard similar before. It doesn't bother me really, I feel no need to dig into things like this. Ultimately, who caused the wind to do that at the very moment Moses needed it to happen? Thats enough for me to consider the Scriptures true.

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Archaeology cat

I've heard that before, too. Still a miracle, in that it happened exactly when it was needed and they were all able to cross even with the strong winds. Though has Yam Suph (the Sea of Reeds) been absolutely identified as the Red Sea?

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Have you ever heard the scientific explanation of the 10 Plagues? It is hilarious. The 10th plague explanation is the most ridiculous.


[color=#000080]The Plagues happened at the same time as a massive volcano eruption. The volcano Santorini sent ash in to the air effecting the surrounding area. The ash is found in Cairo and the Nile River, proven by testing the composition of the ash. This volcanic eruption happened between 1500-1650BC while the Plagues happened between 1400-1550BC. So it fits there. [/color]

[color=#000080]1st Plague. River ran red LIKE blood. But there is a common algae plume called the Red Tide. This makes the river, or any water, look red like blood. Why did this happen? The ash changes the PH level of the river allowing the algae to bloom. [/color]

[color=#000080]2nd Plague. Frogs. The algae is killing fish. Fish eat frog eggs. No fish, record number of frogs. Frogs can't live in polluted water and so leave the river. [/color]

[color=#000080]3rd and 4th Plague. Lice and flies. The translation can actually be lice, fleas, gnats, or midges. But you have riverfull of dead fish, and now dead frogs. This brings the insects of the 3rd and 4th Plague. [/color]

[color=#000080]5th Plague. Pestilence. Flies, dead frogs, dead fish, easy enough no? [/color]

[color=#000080]6th Plague. Boils. Certain types of flies that bite can leave behind boils. The bites get infected, they turn in to boils. [/color]

[color=#000080]7th Plague. Fire and Hail. Ash in the air causes a mixture of ash and water. The ash, very high in the air, causes the water to freeze so when it falls it is hail and not rain. The fire? I saw this amazing picture in Nat. Geo. of a volcanic eruption. There was red lightning. It was amazing to see bright red lightning. Why is it red? Chemicals in the ash makes red lightning. So fire in the sky, and hail. [/color]

[color=#000080]8th Plague. Locusts. Locusts come about when the ground is very damp. They bury their eggs in the sand about 4-6 inches. After record amount of hail the ground would be very wet allowing the locusts to form. [/color]

[color=#000080]9th Plague. Darkness. Ash in the air. After am eruption in 1815 there was darkness for 600 kilometers. After Krakatoa it was dark for even farther for days. [/color]

[color=#000080]10th Plague. Death of First born. In Egypt the first born was king. They would be the one to lead the family after the father died. When food was scarce the first born ate first and some times was the only one to eat. After locusts ate every thing there was only grain locked in vaults. The hail got it wet, locust feces, it made it moldy. And so when only the first born ate, they were the only ones killed by moldy grain. [/color]

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[quote name='Papist' timestamp='1314273917' post='2294677']
Have you ever heard the scientific explanation of the 10 Plagues? It is hilarious. The 10th plague explanation is the most ridiculous.


[color=#000080]The Plagues happened at the same time as a massive volcano eruption. The volcano Santorini sent ash in to the air effecting the surrounding area. The ash is found in Cairo and the Nile River, proven by testing the composition of the ash. This volcanic eruption happened between 1500-1650BC while the Plagues happened between 1400-1550BC. So it fits there. [/color]

[color=#000080]1st Plague. River ran red LIKE blood. But there is a common algae plume called the Red Tide. This makes the river, or any water, look red like blood. Why did this happen? The ash changes the PH level of the river allowing the algae to bloom. [/color]

[color=#000080]2nd Plague. Frogs. The algae is killing fish. Fish eat frog eggs. No fish, record number of frogs. Frogs can't live in polluted water and so leave the river. [/color]

[color=#000080]3rd and 4th Plague. Lice and flies. The translation can actually be lice, fleas, gnats, or midges. But you have riverfull of dead fish, and now dead frogs. This brings the insects of the 3rd and 4th Plague. [/color]

[color=#000080]5th Plague. Pestilence. Flies, dead frogs, dead fish, easy enough no? [/color]

[color=#000080]6th Plague. Boils. Certain types of flies that bite can leave behind boils. The bites get infected, they turn in to boils. [/color]

[color=#000080]7th Plague. Fire and Hail. Ash in the air causes a mixture of ash and water. The ash, very high in the air, causes the water to freeze so when it falls it is hail and not rain. The fire? I saw this amazing picture in Nat. Geo. of a volcanic eruption. There was red lightning. It was amazing to see bright red lightning. Why is it red? Chemicals in the ash makes red lightning. So fire in the sky, and hail. [/color]

[color=#000080]8th Plague. Locusts. Locusts come about when the ground is very damp. They bury their eggs in the sand about 4-6 inches. After record amount of hail the ground would be very wet allowing the locusts to form. [/color]

[color=#000080]9th Plague. Darkness. Ash in the air. After am eruption in 1815 there was darkness for 600 kilometers. After Krakatoa it was dark for even farther for days. [/color]

[color=#000080]10th Plague. Death of First born. In Egypt the first born was king. They would be the one to lead the family after the father died. When food was scarce the first born ate first and some times was the only one to eat. After locusts ate every thing there was only grain locked in vaults. The hail got it wet, locust feces, it made it moldy. And so when only the first born ate, they were the only ones killed by moldy grain. [/color]
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Yeah, that 10th one's a doozy. Some of the others could be somewhat viable, though of course their timing would still be rather miraculous, no? But if the Thera volcano caused all that in Egypt, then wouldn't it have caused similar phenomena on Crete, in Greece, and in the Near East? To my knowledge, though, there is no record of such. Now, I know it's been awhile since I've studied the Minoans, and we can't read their language anyway, but I don't remember reading anything that would've indicated these things occurring in the Minoan world at the time of the Thera eruption. There was an earthquake on Crete that may have been related to the eruption, though.

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[quote name='Archaeology cat' timestamp='1314274908' post='2294681']
Yeah, that 10th one's a doozy. Some of the others could be somewhat viable, though of course their timing would still be rather miraculous, no? But if the Thera volcano caused all that in Egypt, then wouldn't it have caused similar phenomena on Crete, in Greece, and in the Near East? To my knowledge, though, there is no record of such. Now, I know it's been awhile since I've studied the Minoans, and we can't read their language anyway, but I don't remember reading anything that would've indicated these things occurring in the Minoan world at the time of the Thera eruption. There was an earthquake on Crete that may have been related to the eruption, though.
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Yes. Each are not out of the question individually. But as a whole, isolated to only where the Pharo lives is a real stretch. What is really interesting is that these explainers do not consider that perhaps their scientific explanation is how God delivered the 10 plagues.

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Archaeology cat

[quote name='Papist' timestamp='1314275451' post='2294683']
Yes. Each are not out of the question individually. But as a whole, isolated to only where the Pharo lives is a real stretch. What is really interesting is that these explainers do not consider that perhaps their scientific explanation is how God delivered the 10 plagues.
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Exactly! I think it's easy sometimes to fail to consider that maybe God uses the natural world to work these miracles instead of just going "bam!" a la Emeril.

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MissScripture

And how did Moses KNOW something was going to happen? It's not like he just went, "Oh, hey look guys! That's what happens when you make God mad..." He always told the Pharaoh that something was going to happen.

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LaPetiteSoeur

If we believe small things like sunsets, sunrises, trees, etc are miracles--I know trees sound insane, but it always amazed me that such a HUGE thing could start from something SO small--then why can't the wind be one, too???

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Modern Archeology suggests that this is all moot because nothing like the Exodus described in the Bible ever happened.

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Is it moot? It is interesting to hear the lengths people go try to disprove miracles from a scientific standpoint. If Jesus had come down from the cross as the doubters, mockers, and scoffers suggested in order to 'prove' his divinity, no doubt people like yourself would not take this as evidence of divinity, but just some man with a cool 'magic' trick that could be explained away by calling it smoke and mirrors. I guess the real point is that no evidence will ever suffice. I guess that is why faith is a gift.

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Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam

[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1314292961' post='2294791']
Modern Archeology suggests that this is all moot because nothing like the Exodus described in the Bible ever happened.
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To be fair, it used to be scientific fact that the Troy described by Homer never existed. Only recently (in the late 80's early 90's) was work done that showed that Troy did exist and was very much like Homer's description (had the walls, the geography etc). Archeological fact is a very shaky thing to base ideas upon. It would seem their method of discovery shows more what things were probably like, more than what never happened.

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missionseeker

[quote name='Archaeology cat' timestamp='1314275688' post='2294687']
Exactly! I think it's easy sometimes to fail to consider that maybe God uses the natural world to work these miracles instead of just going "bam!" a la Emeril.
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Lol. a la Emeril...

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