LaPetiteSoeur Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Funny thing is, if a public school teacher was IN SUPPORT of gay and nontraditional marriage, he'd be a hero. I don't understand why so many people can air their beliefs but Catholics and traditionals can't air theirs. We're not supposed to comment, so why are they allowed to?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 [quote name='LaPetiteSoeur' timestamp='1314574381' post='2296600'] Funny thing is, if a public school teacher was IN SUPPORT of gay and nontraditional marriage, he'd be a hero. I don't understand why so many people can air their beliefs but Catholics and traditionals can't air theirs. We're not supposed to comment, so why are they allowed to?? [/quote] Welcome to the freedom-loving tolerant world of liberalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Well, when you don't believe there is objective truth, every discourse is ultimately a discourse of power and rights are ultimately given/determined by governmental authority. Open mindedness in this way truly has caused some people's brains to fall out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanctitasDeo Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Sad. [url="http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-08-24/features/os-jerry-buell-gay-facebook-end-20110824_1_anti-gay-comments-reinstates-social-studies"]At least he was reinstated. [/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzy Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 For better coverage of the legal issues, I suggest here: http://volokh.com/2011/08/26/reinstatement-of-florida-teacher-who-was-reassigned-after-anti-same-sex-marriage-facebook-posts/ (The Volokh Conspiracy is a conservative law blog. Conservative in the legal movement sense, not the religious sense. They err on the originalist side, if that means anything to you.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 [quote name='LaPetiteSoeur' timestamp='1314574381' post='2296600'] Funny thing is, if a public school teacher was IN SUPPORT of gay and nontraditional marriage, he'd be a hero. I don't understand why so many people can air their beliefs but Catholics and traditionals can't air theirs. We're not supposed to comment, so why are they allowed to?? [/quote] its the same with the argument, "don't force your religious beliefs on the government to legislate morality" argument. If the government can't "legislate morality" why do they have such a successful time legislating immorality and abominations??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 [quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1314570317' post='2296544'] He should've posted links to some really nasty porn on his page instead. Then the bleedin' hearts would instead be adamantly defending his "First Amendment rights." [/quote] And post the porn at the public library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzy Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 I just want to clarify the facts here. The school was reacting to the religious statements he made on his syllabus and on the school webpage and the facebook statements. Punishing him for his statements on facebook is clearly unconstitutional. (I work in civil rights law for one of those organizations often seen as "bleeding-heart liberal," no worries, had the court not found it unconstitutional - I promise you we would have been all over it!) Understand that with the syllabus and school webpage, he's acting as the voice of the school. The school could be sued or investigated by the DOJ because of his actions because the school can't legally endorse one religion over another (and before you call the DOJ heinously liberal - a sizable chunk of their religious discrimination work in education in recent years has been protecting the rights of bible clubs and similar groups.) So the school was trying to cover their butt and just did a really poor job of figuring out which part of his speech they are liable for. So really the take-away here is that the school needs better counsel. Now if you want a case that has been wrongly decided by a liberal judge, try this one: Harper v. Poway (a student wore a t-shirt criticizing homosexuals quoting scripture, the school made him cover it, the court refused to enjoin the school from barring the shirt in the future). The Supreme Court dodged overturning it by vacating it as moot because the student had graduated by the time it reached them, so a judge may attempt this interpretation again some day. Academia from all sides though, liberal, conservative, or other, has strongly criticized this decision as a dangerous infringement on freedom of speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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