Winchester Posted July 5, 2003 Share Posted July 5, 2003 I must enter a message to post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted July 5, 2003 Author Share Posted July 5, 2003 I should have liked the one who said it needn't follow just war to be so to post. That's interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted July 5, 2003 Share Posted July 5, 2003 2nd Option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysologus Posted July 5, 2003 Share Posted July 5, 2003 I don't think we can demand that a war follow Catholic THEORY. The just war theory is not dogmatic and I saw on a Catholic website very recently that some theologians think that it's in need of some work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don John of Austria Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 Well I for one didn't like the Choices, A war could be just and Faught in an unjust way among other things. Also one does not need to Know catholic Theology to fight a Just war on simply must act in an objectively Just way which has been explained by the Church as Just war theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 God seemed to have thought that war was the way to go quite often in times of old. We are also aware of a very real war being played out on a spiritual front every hour of every day. So yes, war is real and necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topher Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 Amen, Brother Adam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysologus Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 Is there a Quaker on our forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 i'm intelectually oppsed to every war until such time as it starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysologus Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 So what if the U.S. was invaded, would you then still be intellectually opposed to a war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 if the us was invaded my support of fighting back would depend on who was invading and why, but as a point of fact if you invade a place you are the aggressor and the people you invade have a right to fight back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TempleofVesarius Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 I voted no, but I do think war is needed sometimes...to call it just would imply that the innocents that die as a result deserved and are somehow recieving justice...war is has to many costs to be considered just or fair, even when it is necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted July 7, 2003 Author Share Posted July 7, 2003 Well I for one didn't like the Choices, A war could be just and Faught in an unjust way among other things. Also one does not need to Know catholic Theology to fight a Just war on simply must act in an objectively Just way which has been explained by the Church as Just war theory. Of course you don't like the choices. I didn't say one had to know just war theory, just follow it. One can follow rules without knowing them. People here are familiar with just war theory, which is something one could arrive at by non-Catholic philosophy. I chose familiar terms. If you're going to pick, at least try to exercise some judgement about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 I don't think we can demand that a war follow Catholic THEORY. The just war theory is not dogmatic and I saw on a Catholic website very recently that some theologians think that it's in need of some work. Good point... but Catholic Theory is better than any other out there, when it comes to right and wrong... When it comes to right and wrong, we know that it's up to God... hence, no other church knows God better than the Catholic Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysologus Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 Well, if you say that it's okay to fight back, that's still war, so I don't see how you could've voted for the plain "no" answer. Just war theory definitely allows defensive wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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