Getting Bin Laden

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[i]Shortly after eleven o’clock on the night of May 1st, two MH-60 Black Hawk helicopters lifted off from Jalalabad Air Field, in eastern Afghanistan, and embarked on a covert mission into Pakistan to kill Osama bin Laden. Inside the aircraft were twenty-three Navy SEALs from Team Six, which is officially known as the Naval Special Warfare Development Group, or DEVGRU. A Pakistani-American translator, whom I will call Ahmed, and a dog named Cairo—a Belgian Malinois—were also aboard. It was a moonless evening, and the helicopters’ pilots, wearing night-vision goggles, flew without lights over mountains that straddle the border with Pakistan. Radio communications were kept to a minimum, and an eerie calm settled inside the aircraft.[/i]

Read more [url="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/08/08/110808fa_fact_schmidle#ixzz1U13X31A0"]http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/08/08/110808fa_fact_schmidle#ixzz1U13X31A0[/url]

[ardillacid]

Based off of the number of responses I would say that it looks like everybody's got you on ignore except your really-really-really-good-friend-who-just-happens-to-be-a-guy-USairways

[peach_cube]

Good read, thanks.

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='ardillacid' timestamp='1312840330' post='2283484']
Based off of the number of responses I would say that it looks like everybody's got you on ignore except your really-really-really-good-friend-who-just-happens-to-be-a-guy-USairways
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It's the 21st century. Get with the times, caveman.

[4588686]

UH-OH!


[url="http://www.registan.net/index.php/2011/08/04/the-schmidle-muddle-of-the-osama-bin-laden-take-down/"]http://www.registan.net/index.php/2011/08/04/the-schmidle-muddle-of-the-osama-bin-laden-take-down/[/url]

[Papist]

What's the point of this thread? ...better question, why am I in it?

[peach_cube]

[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1312866860' post='2284615']
UH-OH!


[url="http://www.registan.net/index.php/2011/08/04/the-schmidle-muddle-of-the-osama-bin-laden-take-down/"]http://www.registan....aden-take-down/[/url]
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Indeed.

[arfink]

UH OH, PAY WALL.

[Jaime]

I hope we get him some day

[Ice_nine]

When you posted this I clicked the link, read the first paragraph, looked for a note or disclaimer or something, and when I found none I decided that it was not worth 10 minutes of my time to read.

I figured that it was a (intentionally) fictional account of what might have happened. If that was meant to be a factual account and if people actually believe that well, that's embarrassing for all the parties involved.

The lame

[4588686]

[quote name='jaime (the artist formerly known as hot stuff)' timestamp='1312918798' post='2284955']
I hope we get him some day
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If you think our Kenyan born Muslim President is going to ever harm his hero Osama then you are hopelessly naive

[4588686]

[quote name='Ice_nine' timestamp='1312936764' post='2285187']
When you posted this I clicked the link, read the first paragraph, looked for a note or disclaimer or something, and when I found none I decided that it was not worth 10 minutes of my time to read.

I figured that it was a (intentionally) fictional account of what might have happened. If that was meant to be a factual account and if people actually believe that well, that's embarrassing for all the parties involved.

The lame
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The story may be absolutely accurate. The New Yorker is a pretty reputable magazine and he has definitively said that he sources are individuals who debriefed the men involved in the raid. That's a pretty plausible claim given the individual, the organization he contracted him, and his potential sources. The most serious claim leveled against him is that he will sometimes stretch the bounds of what he could really know. I don't think that anyone is claiming that the story is totally or even mostly false. The problem is that the author did not disclose that he never actually spoke to the SEALs involved. He never claimed that he did speak to them he just should have made that fact clear given the assumption that most would make given the level of detail he brought to the story. The story may well be totally accurate. It just left out a very important disclosure.

[ardillacid]

It's a shot in the dark, but 'the story may well be totally accurate'

Just apologize for posting bull poo already

[4588686]

[quote name='ardillacid' timestamp='1312938032' post='2285214']
It's a shot in the dark, but 'the story may well be totally accurate'

Just apologize for posting bull poo already
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You're making too far a leap. There is a world of difference between 'he should have been more clear that his information came from second hand sources' and 'this story if the essence of cow'. I personally assumed that he was writing from second hand information when I first read it but a reasonable person may have assumed otherwise and he should have been more clear about that.

[ardillacid]

You're right. Gotta protect the ego at all costs. I HAVE NEVER MADE A MISTAKE