mortify Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I'll be sure to leave some "meaning of mass" pamphlets at the next life teen session I run in to hope you enjoyed your performance though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dells_of_bittersweet Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 [quote name='ardillacid' timestamp='1311826735' post='2277370'] utless at mass. really [/quote] If you have a beef with anything that we are playing, it shouldn't be with this song. The chorus is "Come Lord Jesus, Come" repeated 5 times. It's cool because Jesus comes in person soon after we sing it. Also the verses are I believe Isiah. Btw we do a slow soft version of this. If you think we're being irrevernent go complain about Blessed Be Your Name or the Mass of a Joyful Heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The question is not does the music prepare and/or assist people in prayer. Rather, does helping prepare and/or assist people in prayer justify such music. If so, then anything is justifiable if it helps people prepare and/or assist them in prayer. If then you say no, then where is the line drawn and who decides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Papist, people do whatever they want these days, the modern mind doesnt understand such points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides quarens intellectum Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1311820930' post='2277302'] For me, I would have to work extra hard to concentrate at your mass, but to your point, that's me. [/quote] and I have to work extra hard to concentrate at every Sunday Mass, thanks to our choir's use of obscure and insipid songs from Breaking Bread, which few have heard of and even fewer can follow (except for the occasional "I am the Bread of Life" that tends to be thrown in if the communion song isn't long enough). It's not just P&W songs that can be distracting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenciledOne Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I hate Mass music snobbery, so the few individuals after just scanning this page, who are being sarcastic or judgemental please stop. At least in this way the persons at Mass can enter into worship at least a little bit, and even attend Mass in general. That should be enough of a blessing in this case. At least someone cares enough to play decent songs to praise God. Most of the songs I have at my own parish are extremely poor and do very little to praise God at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 P&W music helps you enter into the Mass more fully. That's great. However, P&W music thwarts my entering into the Mass more fully. Why should you get priority over me? And why shouldn’t there be big band music for my grandpa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel's angel Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The way so many people seem to view liturgical music surprises and saddens me (both online and 'in real life'). Too many have the attitude of 'well if it's got sort of Christian lyrics and doesn't sound like Metallica it'll do'. People have said to me 'praise and worship does the same job as Gregorian chant'...no, it really doesn't. 'Its fine as long as we're praising God'...well of course, praising God is great but people continue to fail to see the uniqueness of the Liturgy. I can praise God singing praise and worship songs around my house but those same songs aren't appropriate for me to WORSHIP God in the Eucharist. There's too much misunderstanding amongst young Catholics, and it's so difficult to get through to most of them. I was actually chastised by a seminarian because I apparently know nothing about p+w since I don't think it's appropriate for liturgical worship. He failed to see his own ignorance of the Liturgy in his thinking that p+w is suitable for liturgical use. Sorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 [quote name='dells_of_bittersweet' timestamp='1311870657' post='2277549'] If you have a beef with anything that we are playing, it shouldn't be with this song. The chorus is "Come Lord Jesus, Come" repeated 5 times. It's cool because Jesus comes in person soon after we sing it. Also the verses are I believe Isiah. Btw we do a slow soft version of this. If you think we're being irrevernent go complain about Blessed Be Your Name or the Mass of a Joyful Heart. [/quote] He's trolling. Don't worry about him. [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1311871828' post='2277558'] The question is not does the music prepare and/or assist people in prayer. Rather, does helping prepare and/or assist people in prayer justify such music. If so, then anything is justifiable if it helps people prepare and/or assist them in prayer. If then you say no, then where is the line drawn and who decides? [/quote] The Church has decided and drawn the lines. It is up to us to educate ourselves about them. Music at Mass is not about us. It's about the Mass. It's not about preparation/assisting/or even participating. It's about the Mass. And if the Church has set guidelines, who are we to decide otherwise? I'm not the biggest fan of chant, always. I get bored when I can't understand it, and when it's repetitive. That's my problem. Not the music director's, and it's not cuz something's wrong with the Mass. It's because I am a fallen human and some things I like and some things I don't and most the time I can't concentrate. I shouldn't be catered to at Mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Missionseeker, The problem is, the "guidelines" the church has set, are for gregorian chant to take priority over all other forms. This is not happening at [b]any[/b] parish I know of. So when you say, "who are we to decide otherwise", you should be asking the people who are not doing gregorian chant. The implementation of music is mostly left to local dioceses and bishops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1311884637' post='2277685'] Missionseeker, The problem is, the "guidelines" the church has set, are for gregorian chant to take priority over all other forms. This is not happening at [b]any[/b] parish I know of. So when you say, "who are we to decide otherwise", you should be asking the people who are not doing gregorian chant. The implementation of music is mostly left to local dioceses and bishops. [/quote] There are many more guidelines. In 1967, Musicam Sacram, an Instruction on on Sacred Music was propogated as an answer to questions after the council. [quote]15. The faithful fulfil their liturgical role by making that full, conscious and active participation which is demanded by the nature of the Liturgy itself and which is, by reason of baptism, the right and duty of the Christian people.13 This participation[indent] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](a) Should be above all internal, in the sense that by it the faithful join their mind to what they pronounce or hear, and cooperate with heavenly grace,14[/size][/font] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](b) Must be, on the other hand, external also, that is, such as to show the internal participation by gestures and bodily attitudes, by the acclamations, responses and singing.15[/size][/font][/indent][color=#000000][left] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]The faithful should also be taught to unite themselves interiorly to what the ministers or choir sing, so that by listening to them they may raise their minds to God.[/size][/font][/color][/left] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]16. One cannot find anything more religious and more joyful in sacred celebrations than a whole congregation expressing its faith and devotion in song. Therefore the active participation of the whole people, which is shown in singing, is to be carefully promoted as follows:[/size][/font][/color] [indent] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](a) It should first of all include acclamations, responses to the greetings of the priest and ministers and to the prayers of litany form, and also antiphons and psalms, refrains or repeated responses, hymns and canticles.16[/size][/font] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](b) Through suitable instruction and practices, the people should be gradually led to a fuller -- indeed, to a complete -- participation in those parts of the singing which pertain to them.[/size][/font] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](c) Some of the people's song, however, especially if the faithful have not yet been sufficiently instructed, or if musical settings for several voices are used, can be handed over to the choir alone, provided that the people are not excluded from those parts that concern them. But the usage of entrusting to the choir alone the entire singing of the whole Proper and of the whole Ordinary, to the complete exclusion of the people's participation in the singing, is to be deprecated.[/size][/font][/indent][color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]17. At the proper times, all should observe a reverent silence.17 Through it the faithful are not only not considered as extraneous or dumb spectators at the liturgical service, but are associated more intimately in the mystery that is being celebrated, thanks to that interior disposition which derives from the word of God that they have heard, from the songs and prayers that have been uttered, and from spiritual union with the priest in the parts that he says or sings himself.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]18. Among the faithful, special attention must be given to the instruction in sacred singing of members of lay religious societies, so that they may support and promote the participation of the people more effectively.18 The formation of the whole people in singing, should be seriously and patiently undertaken together with liturgical instruction, according to the age, status and way of life of the faithful and the degree of their religious culture; this should be done even from the first years of education in elementary schools.19[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]19. Because of the liturgical ministry it performs, the choir -- or the [i]Capella musica[/i], or [i]schola[/i] [i]cantorum[/i] -- deserves particular mention. Its role has become something of yet greater importance and weight by reason of the norms of the Council concerning the liturgical renewal. Its duty is, in effect, to ensure the proper performance of the parts which belong to it, according to the different kinds of music sung, and to encourage the active participation of the faithful in the singing. Therefore:[/size][/font][/color] [indent] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](a) There should be choirs, or [i]Capellae[/i], or [i]scholae cantorum[/i], especially in cathedrals and other major churches, in seminaries and religious houses of studies, and they should be carefully encouraged.[/size][/font] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](b) It would also be desirable for similar choirs to be set up in smaller churches.[/size][/font][/indent][color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]20. Large choirs ([i]Capellae musicae[/i]) existing in basilicas, cathedrals, monasteries and other major churches, which have in the course of centuries earned for themselves high renown by preserving and developing a musical heritage of inestimable value, should be retained for sacred celebrations of a more elaborate kind, according to their own traditional norms, recognized and approved by the Ordinary.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]However, the directors of these choirs and the rectors of the churches should take care that the people always associate themselves with the singing by performing at least the easier sections of those parts which belong to them.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]21. Provision should be made for at least one or two properly trained singers, especially where there is no possibility of setting up even a small choir. The singer will present some simpler musical settings, with the people taking part, and can lead and support the faithful as far as is needed. The presence of such a singer is desirable even in churches which have a choir, for those celebrations in which the choir cannot take part but which may fittingly be performed with some solemnity and therefore with singing.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]22. The choir can consist, according to the customs of each country and other circumstances, of either men and boys, or men and boys only, or men and women, or even, where there is a genuine case for it, of women only.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]23. Taking into account the layout of each church, the choir should be placed in such a way:[/size][/font][/color] [indent] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](a) That its nature should be clearly apparent-namely, that it is a part of the whole congregation, and that it fulfills a special role;[/size][/font] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](b) That it is easier for it to fulfil its liturgical function;20[/size][/font] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](c) That each of its members may be able to participate easily in the Mass, that is to say by sacramental participation.[/size][/font][/indent][color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]Whenever the choir also includes women, it should be placed outside the sanctuary ([i]presbyterium[/i]).[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]24. Besides musical formation, suitable liturgical and spiritual formation must also be given to the members of the choir, in such a way that the proper performance of their liturgical role will not only enhance the beauty of the celebration and be an excellent example for the faithful, but will bring spiritual benefit to the choir-members themselves.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]25. In order that this technical and spiritual formation may more easily be obtained, the diocesan, national and international associations of sacred music should offer their services, especially those that have been approved and several times commended by the Holy See.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]26. The priest, the sacred ministers and the servers, the reader and those in the choir, and also the commentator, should perform the parts assigned to them in a way which is comprehensible to the people, in order that the responses of the people, when the rite requires it, may be made easy and spontaneous. It is desirable that the priest, and the ministers of every degree, should join their voices to the voice of the whole faithful in those parts which concern the people.21[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]27. For the celebration of the Eucharist with the people, especially on Sundays and feast days, a form of sung Mass ([i]Missa in cantu)[/i] is to be preferred as much as possible, even several times on the same day.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]28. The distinction between solemn, sung and read Mass, sanctioned by the Instruction of 1958 (n. 3), is retained, according to the traditional liturgical laws at present in force. However, for the sung Mass ([i]Missa cantata[/i]), different degrees of participation are put forward here for reasons of pastoral usefulness, so that it may become easier to make the celebration of Mass more beautiful by singing, according to the capabilities of each congregation.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]These degrees are so arranged that the first may be used even by itself, but the second and third, wholly or partially, may never be used without the first. In this way the faithful will be continually led toward an ever greater participation in the singing.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]29. The following belong to the first degree:[/size][/font][/color] [indent] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](a) In the entrance rites: the greeting of the priest together with the reply of the people; the prayer.[/size][/font] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](b) In the Liturgy of the Word: the acclamations at the Gospel.[/size][/font] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](c) In the Eucharistic Liturgy: the prayer over the offerings; the preface with its dialogue and the Sanctus; the final doxology of the Canon, the Lord's Prayer with its introduction and embolism; the[i]Pax Domini[/i]; the prayer after the Communion; the formulas of dismissal.[/size][/font][/indent][color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]30. The following belong to the second degree:[/size][/font][/color] [indent] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](a) the [i]Kyrie, Gloria[/i] and [i]Agnus Dei[/i];[/size][/font] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](b) the Creed;[/size][/font] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](c) the prayer of the faithful.[/size][/font][/indent][color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]31. The following belong to the third degree:[/size][/font][/color] [indent] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](a) the songs at the Entrance and Communion processions;[/size][/font] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](b) the songs after the Lesson or Epistle;[/size][/font] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](c) the [i]Alleluia[/i] before the Gospel;[/size][/font] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](d) the song at the Offertory;[/size][/font] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](e) the readings of Sacred Scripture, unless it seems more suitable to proclaim them without singing.[/size][/font][/indent][color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]32. The custom legitimately in use in certain places and widely confirmed by indults, of substituting other songs for the songs given in the [i]Graduale[/i] for the Entrance, Offertory and Communion, can be retained according to the judgment of the competent territorial authority, as long as songs of this sort are in keeping with the parts of the Mass, with the feast or with the liturgical season. It is for the same territorial authority to approve the texts of these songs.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]33. It is desirable that the assembly of the faithful should participate in the songs of the Proper as much as possible, especially through simple responses and other suitable settings.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]The song after the lessons, be it in the form of gradual or responsorial psalm, has a special importance among the songs of the Proper. By its very nature, it forms part of the Liturgy, of the Word. It should be performed with all seated and listening to it -- and, what is more, participating in it as far as possible.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]34. The songs which are called the "Ordinary of the Mass", if they are sung by musical settings written for several voices may be performed by the choir according to the customary norms, either [i]a capella[/i], or with instrumental accompaniment, as long as the people are not completely excluded from taking part in the singing.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]In other cases, the parts of the Ordinary of the Mass can be divided between the choir and the people or even between two sections of the people themselves: one can alternate by verses, or one can follow other suitable divisions which divide the text into larger sections. In these cases, the following points are to be noted: it is preferable that the Creed, since it is a formula of profession of faith, should be sung by all, or in such a way as to permit a fitting participation by the faithful; it is preferable that the [i]Sanctus[/i], as the concluding acclamation of the Preface, should normally be sung by the whole congregation together with the priest; the [i]Agnus Dei[/i] may be repeated as often as necessary, especially in concelebrations, where it accompanies the Fraction; it is desirable that the people should participate in this song, as least by the final invocation.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]35. The Lord's Prayer is best performed by the people together with the priest.22[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]If it is sung in Latin, the melodies already legitimately existing should be used; if, however, it is sung in the vernacular, the settings are to be approved by the competent territorial authority.[/size][/font] 36. There is no reason why some of the Proper or Ordinary should not be sung in said Masses. Moreover, some other song can also, on occasions, be sung at the beginning, at the Offertory, at the Communion and at the end of Mass. It is not sufficient, however, that these songs be merely "Eucharistic" -- they must be in keeping with the parts of the Mass, with the feast, or with the liturgical season. [/quote] [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 [quote] "the use of the Latin language, with due respect to particular law, is to be preserved in the Latin rites."30 However, since "the use of the vernacular may frequently be of great advantage to the people"31 "it is for the competent territorial ecclesiastical authority to decide whether, and to what extent, the vernacular language is to be used. Its decrees have to be approved, that is, confirmed by the Apostolic See."32[color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]In observing these norms exactly, one will therefore employ that form of participation which best matches the capabilities of each congregation.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]Pastors of souls should take care that besides the vernacular "the faithful may also be able to say or sing together in Latin those parts of the Ordinary of the Mass which pertain to them."33[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]48. Where the vernacular has been introduced into the celebration of Mass, the local Ordinaries will judge whether it may be opportune to preserve one or more Masses celebrated in Latin -- especially sung Masses ([i]Missae in cantu[/i]) -- in certain churches, above all in large cities, where many come together with faithful of different languages.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]49. As regards the use of Latin or the mother tongue in the sacred celebrations carried out in seminaries, the norms of the Sacred Congregation of Seminaries and Universities concerning the liturgical formation of the students should be observed.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]The members of Institutes professing the evangelical virtues should observe, in this matter, the norms contained in the Apostolic Letter [i]Sacrificium Laudis[/i] of August 15, 1966 besides the Instruction on the language to be used by religious in celebrating the Divine Office and conventual or community Mass, given by this Sacred Congregation of Rites on November 23, 1965.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]50. In sung liturgical services celebrated in Latin:[/size][/font][/color] [indent] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](a) Gregorian chant, as proper to the Roman liturgy, should be given pride of place, other things being equal.34 Its melodies, contained in the "typical" editions, should be used, to the extent that this is possible.[/size][/font] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](b) "It is also desirable that an edition be prepared containing simpler melodies, for use in smaller churches."36[/size][/font] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"](c) Other musical settings, written for one or more voices, be they taken from the traditional heritage or from new works, should be held in honor, encouraged and used as the occasion demands.36[/size][/font][/indent][color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]51. Pastors of souls, having taken into consideration pastoral usefulness and the character of their own language, should see whether parts of the heritage of sacred music, written in previous centuries for Latin texts, could also be conveniently used, not only in liturgical celebrations in Latin but also in those performed in the vernacular. There is nothing to prevent different parts in one and the same celebration being sung in different languages.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]52. In order to preserve the heritage of sacred music and genuinely promote the new forms of sacred singing, "great importance is to be attached to the teaching and practice of music in seminaries, in the novitiates and houses of study of religious of both sexes, and also in other Catholic institutes and schools," especially in those higher institutes intended specially for this.37 Above all, the study and practice of Gregorian chant is to be promoted, because, with its special characteristics, it is a basis of great importance for the development of sacred music.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]53. New works of sacred music should conform faithfully to the principles and norms set out above. In this way they will have "the qualities proper to genuine sacred music, being within the capacities not merely of large choirs but of smaller choirs, facilitating the participation of all the faithful."38[/size][/font] As regards the heritage that has been handed down those parts which correspond to the needs of the renewed Liturgy should first be brought to light. Competent experts in this field must then carefully consider whether other parts can be adapted to the same needs. As for those pieces which do not correspond to the nature of the Liturgy or cannot be harmonized with the pastoral celebration of the Liturgy -- they may be profitably transferred to popular devotions, especially to celebrations of the word of God.39 [/quote] [quote]62. Musical instruments can be very useful in sacred celebrations, whether they accompany the singing or whether they are played as solo instruments."The pipe organ is to be held in high esteem in the Latin Church, since it is its traditional instrument, the sound of which can add a wonderful splendor to the Church's ceremonies and powerfully lift up men's minds to God and higher things. 63. In permitting and using musical instruments, the culture and traditions of individual peoples must be taken into account. However, those instruments which are, by common opinion and use, suitable for secular music only, are to be altogether prohibited from every liturgical celebration and from popular devotions.44[/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]Any musical instrument permitted in divine worship should be used in such a way that it meets the needs of the liturgical celebration, and is in the interests both of the beauty of worship and the edification of the faithful.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]64. The use of musical instruments to accompany the singing can act as a support to the voices, render participation easier, and achieve a deeper union in the assembly. However, their sound should not so overwhelm the voices that it is difficult to make out the text; and when some part is proclaimed aloud by the priest or a minister by virtue of his role, they should be silent.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]65. In sung or said Masses, the organ, or other instrument legitimately admitted, can be used to accompany the singing of the choir and the people; it can also be played solo at the beginning before the priest reaches the altar, at the Offertory, at the Communion, and at the end of Mass.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]The same rule, with the necessary adaptations, can be applied to other sacred celebrations.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]66. The playing of these same instruments as solos is not permitted in Advent, Lent, during the Sacred Triduum and in the Offices and Masses of the Dead.[/size][/font] 67. It is highly desirable that organists and other musicians should not only possess the skill to play properly the instrument entrusted to them: they should also enter into and be thoroughly aware of the spirit of the Liturgy, so that even when playing [i]ex tempore[/i], they will enrich the sacred celebration according to the true nature of each of its parts, and encourage the participation of the faithful.46[/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]"The use of other instruments may also be admitted in divine worship, given the decision and consent of the competent territorial authority, provided that the instruments are suitable for sacred use, or can be adapted to it, that they are in keeping with the dignity of the temple, and truly contribute to the edification of the faithful."43[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]63. In permitting and using musical instruments, the culture and traditions of individual peoples must be taken into account. However, those instruments which are, by common opinion and use, suitable for secular music only, are to be altogether prohibited from every liturgical celebration and from popular devotions.44[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]Any musical instrument permitted in divine worship should be used in such a way that it meets the needs of the liturgical celebration, and is in the interests both of the beauty of worship and the edification of the faithful.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]64. The use of musical instruments to accompany the singing can act as a support to the voices, render participation easier, and achieve a deeper union in the assembly. However, their sound should not so overwhelm the voices that it is difficult to make out the text; and when some part is proclaimed aloud by the priest or a minister by virtue of his role, they should be silent.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]65. In sung or said Masses, the organ, or other instrument legitimately admitted, can be used to accompany the singing of the choir and the people; it can also be played solo at the beginning before the priest reaches the altar, at the Offertory, at the Communion, and at the end of Mass.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]The same rule, with the necessary adaptations, can be applied to other sacred celebrations.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Times New Roman, Times, Arial"][size="3"]66. The playing of these same instruments as solos is not permitted in Advent, Lent, during the Sacred Triduum and in the Offices and Masses of the Dead.[/size][/font] 67. It is highly desirable that organists and other musicians should not only possess the skill to play properly the instrument entrusted to them: they should also enter into and be thoroughly aware of the spirit of the Liturgy, so that even when playing [i]ex tempore[/i], they will enrich the sacred celebration according to the true nature of each of its parts, and encourage the participation of the faithful.46 [/quote] I mean, it's there. [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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