Anybody Heard Of The Triple Papacy?

[infinitelord1]

During mass today, an interim priest mentioned that there was a time when we had 3 popes at the same time. He referred to this as the triple papacy. I was wondering if anyone had some good info on this.

[Lil Red]

The book Pope Fiction has a chapter on this, I think, but i don't have the book anymore. I know two were anti-popes and the third was the real pope.

[Adrestia]

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm Read #204

[CatherineM]

It's one of the reasons that Pope John XXIII picked his name. He was a church historian, and one of the anti-popes called himself John23. By picking that name, he definitively showed they weren't "in line."

[Lil Red]

[quote name='CatherineM' timestamp='1311560870' post='2275258']
It's one of the reasons that Pope John XXIII picked his name. He was a church historian, and one of the anti-popes called himself John23. By picking that name, he definitively showed they weren't "in line."
[/quote]
Cool! I did not know that!

[fides quarens intellectum]

[quote name='Adrestia' timestamp='1311551228' post='2275148']
[url="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm"]http://www.newadvent...then/12272b.htm[/url] Read #204
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yeah - i thought it happened more than once - neat list - hadn't seen it before - thanks!

[thessalonian]

There has never been more than one pope. It is not possible in Christ's Church. We can be sure of that. There were around 30 antipopes throughout the early history of the Church. As you said there was one time when there were two antipopes. The Catholic Encyclopedia lists all the men that were considered legitimate popes. There were times when there was confusion about who the real pope was.

Here is the list of anti-popes.
[url="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01582a.htm"]http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01582a.htm[/url]

Here is the list of Popes.

[url="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm"]http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm[/url]

I think 1417 was the year of the "three" popes.

[dUSt]

Are there any religions who still claim apostolic succession from any of the anti-popes?

[Amppax]

[quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1312938644' post='2285222']
Are there any religions who still claim apostolic succession from any of the anti-popes?
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that would be pretty interesting.

[Luigi]

The triple papacy happened in St. Louis - it was the Cardinal vs. the Padres - the play went 1 - 6 - 3 Joaquin Andujar ("One Tough Domincan"), to De Jesus (shortstop covering second), to de los Santos, with John XXIII out at first.

I know. I was there. I [i]saw[/i] this play mayself!










(Not factually accurate, but fun nonetheless.)

[thessalonian]

[quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1312938644' post='2285222']
Are there any religions who still claim apostolic succession from any of the anti-popes?
[/quote]

That is an interesting question. from what study I have done i do not believe there are but can't say for sure. I know in many if not most of the cases the Church settled who was pope and reunited.

[Amppax]

[quote name='thessalonian' timestamp='1313083335' post='2285967']

That is an interesting question. from what study I have done i do not believe there are but can't say for sure. I know in many if not most of the cases the Church settled who was pope and reunited.
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Aww, no fun

[journeyman]

Was that triple play back in 1981-82? The only one I ever saw, and it was at a Cardinal's game in St. Louis.

[Luigi]

[quote name='journeyman' timestamp='1315098789' post='2299819']
Was that triple play back in 1981-82? The only one I ever saw, and it was at a Cardinal's game in St. Louis.
[/quote]

YUP! That's when Andujar was pitching!

[Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam]

With the patriarchates, having multiple people trying to claim the authority as successor of Peter/Paul (Rome) or successor of Andrew (Constantinople) etc is not uncommon. The eighth ecumenical council was convened to determine who was the rightful patriarch of Constantinople, but eventually these things get sorted out by the Church.