ceciliatherese Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Hi Everyone! My name is Rose, I'm new here I'm 19, and I live in PA. I was wondering, I've been dsicerning since I was 9, and the desire to be a cloistered carmelite nun keeps on coming back, even when I was having problems with my faith. I thought maybe going on a live-in retreat or something would help me sort it out. Does anyone know if the Elysburg Carmelites or any cloistered carmelites around here do that kind of thing, and if they did, do you think they'd let me stay for like a day or two? thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaPetiteSoeur Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Beinvenue! First off, welcome to Vocation Station! I don't know much about the Carmelites (Dominican here!) but there are many phatmassers who are discerning the Carmelites. Also, do you have a spiritual director? If not, it might be a good thing, as he can help you figure out God's will. Dieu vous benisse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlySunshine Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Unfortunately, the Elysburg Carmelites are not the type of Carmelites that allow a live-in. They are strictly cloistered so you can only enter the monastery as a postulant. They do allow guests to live on the premises for a few days, but you won't be able to see inside the enclosure. If you are interested in doing a live-in, you might contact these Carmels that allow live-in experiences: [url="http://www.heartsawake.org/"]Carmelites of Terre Haute, IN[/url] [url="http://db.religiouslife.com/reg_life/irl.nsf/org/95"]Carmelites of Port Tobacco, MD[/url] [url="http://db.religiouslife.com/reg_life/irl.nsf/org/28"]Carmelites of Loretto, PA[/url] [url="http://db.religiouslife.com/reg_life/irl.nsf/org/375"]Carmelites of Little Rock, AR[/url] [url="http://db.religiouslife.com/reg_life/irl.nsf/org/375"]Carmelites of Carmel, CA[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das8949 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 [quote name='MaterMisericordiae' timestamp='1311454940' post='2274463'] Unfortunately, the Elysburg Carmelites are not the type of Carmelites that allow a live-in. They are strictly cloistered so you can only enter the monastery as a postulant. They do allow guests to live on the premises for a few days, but you won't be able to see inside the enclosure. If you are interested in doing a live-in, you might contact these Carmels that allow live-in experiences: [url="http://www.heartsawake.org/"]Carmelites of Terre Haute, IN[/url] [url="http://db.religiouslife.com/reg_life/irl.nsf/org/95"]Carmelites of Port Tobacco, MD[/url] [url="http://db.religiouslife.com/reg_life/irl.nsf/org/28"]Carmelites of Loretto, PA[/url] [url="http://db.religiouslife.com/reg_life/irl.nsf/org/375"]Carmelites of Little Rock, AR[/url] [url="http://db.religiouslife.com/reg_life/irl.nsf/org/375"]Carmelites of Carmel, CA[/url] [/quote] Speaking of Postulants isn't there a postulant at Elysburg who was on this forum? She should be becoming a novice soon I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inperpetuity Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 [quote name='ceciliatherese' timestamp='1311453896' post='2274452'] Hi Everyone! My name is Rose, I'm new here I'm 19, and I live in PA. I was wondering, I've been dsicerning since I was 9, and the desire to be a cloistered carmelite nun keeps on coming back, even when I was having problems with my faith. I thought maybe going on a live-in retreat or something would help me sort it out. Does anyone know if the Elysburg Carmelites or any cloistered carmelites around here do that kind of thing, and if they did, do you think they'd let me stay for like a day or two? thank you [/quote] Hello Rose and welcome. It would be worth talking with the Elysburg community since they are somewhat closeby, and a very good Carmel. I don't know where in PA you are, but letters and phone conversations are sometimes a good way to break the ice with a community and then visiting can clarify things even more. I think the Philadelphia Carmel may allow live-ins, and they are also a good Carmel. If Elysburg only allows a couple of days, then God can certainly work with that, and you would at least have a better idea as to whether you want to continue with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlySunshine Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 [quote name='DarleneSteinemann' timestamp='1311473601' post='2274623'] Speaking of Postulants isn't there a postulant at Elysburg who was on this forum? She should be becoming a novice soon I would think. [/quote] Yep,[i][b] In The Arms of the Lord[/b][/i] is becoming a novice in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das8949 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 [quote name='inperpetuity' timestamp='1311477790' post='2274667'] Hello Rose and welcome. It would be worth talking with the Elysburg community since they are somewhat closeby, and a very good Carmel. I don't know where in PA you are, but letters and phone conversations are sometimes a good way to break the ice with a community and then visiting can clarify things even more. I think the Philadelphia Carmel may allow live-ins, and they are also a good Carmel. If Elysburg only allows a couple of days, then God can certainly work with that, and you would at least have a better idea as to whether you want to continue with them. [/quote] Elysburg only accepts letters not even phone calls at the beginning. I live less than 100 miles from them in Carlisle, PA. I had gotten a brochureto send to Brandi several months ago, but she is now going to CA next month. This is the information: [size="2"]Discalced Carmelite Nuns 70 Monastery Road [b]Elysburg [/b]PA 17824-9697 U.S.A. [img]http://www.ocd.pcn.net/ocd/telef.gif[/img] (570) 6722935 fax (570) 6720278 [/size][email="elysburgcarmel@aol.com"] [size="2"]elysburgcarmel@aol.com[/size][/email] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das8949 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 [quote name='MaterMisericordiae' timestamp='1311479910' post='2274692'] Yep,[i][b] In The Arms of the Lord[/b][/i] is becoming a novice in August. [/quote] I do not assume that there will be a public ceremony for her clothing??? If appropriate could I have her baptismal name. I would like to send her a card. Do you live in PA also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reminiscere Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I believe her name was Moriah. The ceremony is in the Nuns' choir and the celebrant gives the name. [url="http://www.gloria.tv/?media=122205"]http://www.gloria.tv/?media=122205[/url] [quote name='DarleneSteinemann' timestamp='1311559673' post='2275243'] I do not assume that there will be a public ceremony for her clothing??? If appropriate could I have her baptismal name. I would like to send her a card. Do you live in PA also? [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlySunshine Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 [quote name='DarleneSteinemann' timestamp='1311559673' post='2275243'] I do not assume that there will be a public ceremony for her clothing??? If appropriate could I have her baptismal name. I would like to send her a card. Do you live in PA also? [/quote] I don't believe there will be a public clothing ceremony. Her parents are going, I think, but it will be a private thing. I'll send you a PM with her baptismal name. I don't think she'd mind since she posted it here at one point. I don't live in Pennsylvania myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiquitunga Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) [quote name='ceciliatherese' timestamp='1311453896' post='2274452'] Hi Everyone! My name is Rose, I'm new here I'm 19, and I live in PA. I was wondering, I've been dsicerning since I was 9, and the desire to be a cloistered carmelite nun keeps on coming back, even when I was having problems with my faith. I thought maybe going on a live-in retreat or something would help me sort it out. Does anyone know if the Elysburg Carmelites or any cloistered carmelites around here do that kind of thing, and if they did, do you think they'd let me stay for like a day or two? thank you [/quote] Cecilia, I have a friend who was discerning Carmel and was hoping for a live-in too. But she ended up entering a more traditional Carmel that doesn't allow them, like Elysburg, and now she's been there over a year and is a Novice and is very happy .. so you never know. I wonder if what you need now is a retreat. Also, as was mentioned above, if you did visit Elysburg you could stay a few days just not inside the enclosure. But you would get a sense as to whether the Lord was calling you there or not, and get to speak with the Prioress in the parlor. There are good reasons for not allowing live-ins - one: it would be a distraction to their cloistered life to continually allow guests to come in. If I were you I'd give the old-fashioned way a shot, and at least write Elysburg and go visit Mother Stella-Marie is very kind, so I have heard. God bless! Edited July 25, 2011 by Chiquitunga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceciliatherese Posted July 30, 2011 Author Share Posted July 30, 2011 I got a letter back today from them; they said that I was welcome to come for a day or two!!! So happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regina_coeli Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiquitunga Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 [quote name='ceciliatherese' timestamp='1312051927' post='2278572'] I got a letter back today from them; they said that I was welcome to come for a day or two!!! So happy [/quote] Wonderful! So happy you wrote! *prayers* for your discernment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaPetiteSoeur Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 [quote name='ceciliatherese' timestamp='1312051927' post='2278572'] I got a letter back today from them; they said that I was welcome to come for a day or two!!! So happy [/quote] That's great! Continued prayers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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