Oslo, Norway Bombing

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='BG45' timestamp='1311377576' post='2274037']
Glad Hilde's okay!

The Prime Minister's speech was pretty inspiring as a response. More about compassion and caring for the injured and the families of those who had died than the vengeance rhetoric you hear many places.
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Amen brother.

[Laudate_Dominum]

SUNDVOLLEN, Norway (AP) — The man in the police uniform shouted for the campers to come closer. When they did, he killed them.
The gunman who killed at least 80 people at an island youth camp northwest of Oslo used his disguise to lure in his victims, then shot them twice to make sure they were dead, survivors said in the village of Sundvollen, where they were taken after the massacre.
"I saw many dead people," said 15-year old Elise, whose father, Vidar Myhre, didn't want her to disclose her last name. She just feet away from the gunman when he opened fire in the camp on Utoya island...

[url="http://news.yahoo.com/witnesses-describe-scene-terror-norway-camp-010853069.html"]Witnesses describe scene of terror at Norway camp[/url]

[Laudate_Dominum]

[b]Oslo[/b]. Police questioned a blond 32-year-old suspect Saturday over twin attacks on a youth camp and the government headquarters that killed at least 91 people in Norway's deadliest tragedy since World War II.

As harrowing testimony emerged from the holiday island where scores of youngsters were mown down by a gunman dressed as a policeman, Norway's premier said the country would emerge stronger from the "cruel act of violence".

"Never since the Second World War has our country been hit by a crime on this scale," Jens Stoltenberg told journalists in an early morning press conference as police searched for more bodies on the idyllic Utoeya island.

While there was no official confirmation of the suspect's identity, he was widely named by the local media as Anders Behring Breivik.

Police commissioner Sveinung Sponheim confirmed that the suspect was a 32--year--old Norwegian who had posted anti--Muslim rhetoric online.

According to the TV2 channel, the arrested suspect has links to right--wing extremists and possessed two weapons registered in his name.

Other Norwegian media reported that he described himself on his Facebook page as "conservative", "Christian", and interested in hunting and computer games like World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2.

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[url="http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/norway-mourns-91-victims-as-homegrown-suspect-quizzed/454780"]Norway Mourns 91 Victims as Homegrown Suspect Quizzed[/url]

[kujo]

This happened about 200 yards from my good friend's house. He was sitting in his office and his window was facing the building in question when the explosion went off. He couldn't find his sister for hours, but everyone seems to be accounted for at this moment.

Before we politicize and ideologize this thing, take a breathe and say a prayer for those who were killed, as well as those who are going to be tasked with responding to this situation.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1311433946' post='2274304']
This happened about 200 yards from my good friend's house. He was sitting in his office and his window was facing the building in question when the explosion went off. He couldn't find his sister for hours, but everyone seems to be accounted for at this moment.

Before we politicize and ideologize this thing, take a breathe and say a prayer for those who were killed, as well as those who are going to be tasked with responding to this situation.
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Amen.

[Papist]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1311433946' post='2274304']
Before we politicize and ideologize this thing, take a breathe and say a prayer for those who were killed, as well as those who are going to be tasked with responding to this situation.
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Amen! Let the media rant and rave about politics and ideology of the killer.

[SoylentGreene]

God have mercy on their souls and grant them eternal rest.

[CatherineM]

These kids were teenagers from all over Norway. Basically the best and brightest of a generation from many small towns. This could completely change the face and identity of an entire country for a long time to come.

[4588686]

[quote name='CatherineM' timestamp='1311441204' post='2274364']
These kids were teenagers from all over Norway. Basically the best and brightest of a generation from many small towns. This could completely change the face and identity of an entire country for a long time to come.
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Very good point.

[BG45]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1311433946' post='2274304']
This happened about 200 yards from my good friend's house. He was sitting in his office and his window was facing the building in question when the explosion went off. He couldn't find his sister for hours, but everyone seems to be accounted for at this moment.

Before we politicize and ideologize this thing, take a breathe and say a prayer for those who were killed, as well as those who are going to be tasked with responding to this situation.
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Amen. The details will come out in time, with or without our speculation. Our prayers are definitely the best thing we can offer while the families are consoled, the injured cared for, and the police do their job.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='CatherineM' timestamp='1311441204' post='2274364']
These kids were teenagers from all over Norway. Basically the best and brightest of a generation from many small towns. This could completely change the face and identity of an entire country for a long time to come.
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the ripples of this will be felt for a long, long time.

[Jesus_lol]

I found this post on reddit from the user "Sunberg" and am copying this here with his permission.he basically collected a bunch of info posted by users.

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Some bulletpoints of what happened:

[list][*]This happened at the Norwegian Labour party's summercamp for teenagers.[*]ca 600-700 people were at the island (Utøya is an island) most of them teenagers around 16 years old[*]The island is about 35km / 20miles from Oslo[*]The island is about 0.12km2 , or easier to visualize: 350 x 350 meters. It was also about 500-600 meter swim to get to the mainland. (via [url="http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ixc7a/atleast_80_people_killed_in_ut%C3%B8ya_massacre/c27fg91"]Humpa[/url])[*]Some people were trying to swim others were hiding[*]Some people were saying that if you know someone there, don't call them as they might have been hiding[*]People were posting to Facebook and Twitter asking for help[*](19:10) One person was arrested.[*][url="http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/22/nyheter/innenriks/skyteepisode/utoya/17418837/"]Photos show that [i]many teenagers[/i] have been killed[/url][*][url="http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrk.no%2Fnyheter%2Fnorge%2F1.7723132"]The shooter used many weapons, including shotgun, handgun and automatic weapon.[/url][*][url="http://www.abcnyheter.no/files/imagecache/wide/2011-29/utoya980_0.jpg"]Uncensored photo from the island[/url][*]Total death toll is [i]atleast 80[/i], and police are saying it may still rise. Most of them children/teenagers.[*]Police have also found unexploded explosives on the island, and believes/almost certain that there is a link with the Oslo bombing 2 hours earlier.[*]Around 30 are seriously injured, among those 20 are critically injured[*]Breivik had purchased 6 tons of artificial fertilizers on the 4th of May. This is not considered unusual for a vegetable producer.[/list] [i]Update 09:14 Norwegian time[/i]:

[list][*]At least 84 have been confirmed dead at the island, but numbers might still rise. None of the dead have been identified yet, and the police are still searching for bodies on land, but mainly in the water as he also shot at people trying to swim from the island.[*]The shooter has been charged with the maximum sentence possible in Norway (21 years in prison, [url="http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ixc7a/atleast_80_people_killed_in_ut%C3%B8ya_massacre/c27fi7x"]however, this can be raised up until life[/url])[*]The shooter has been charged for both the Oslo explosion and the shootings[/list] [i]Update 09:30[/i]:

[list][*]Police has raised the estimate to a [b]total of 91 confirmed dead at Utøya (84) and Oslo (7)[/b][/list] [i]Update 15:55[/i]:

[list][*][url="http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/23/nyheter/antall_dode/utoya/oslo/sykehus/17429023/"]Dagbladet writes[/url] that the police has confirmed that 85 people were killed at Utøya. However, they say numbers may still rise.[/list] [i]Update 18:30[/i]:

[list][*]The shooter was arrested 1.5 hours after he began shooting according to the [url="http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10080660"]Police's press conference[/url][*]He surrendered peacefully to the Police when they came to the island[*]The Police are still working and collecting body parts from the debris (I think they referred to the Oslo bombing)[/list] [i]Update 23:15[/i]:

[list][*][url="http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ixc7a/atleast_80_people_killed_in_ut%C3%B8ya_massacre/c27il7l"]via drunkangel[/url]
He sent some kind of gigantic 1500 page manifesto to Finnish politicians about one hour before the bomb exploded. The police say he has admitted this. In the material sent to the Finnish politicians he describes how he started a "vegetable farm" to be able to order tons of fertilizer without suspicion. The manifesto is said to be strongly nationalistic and anti-islam. ([url="http://goo.gl/BwDL0"]article[/url])[/list] [i]Update 23:30[/i]:

[list][*]Anders Breivik has confessed to the massacre, via his lawyer ([url="http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.7724809"]http://www.nrk.no/ny...norge/1.7724809[/url])[/list] [b]About the shooter:[/b]

He has been arrested and is being questioned by the police. This is what I have been able to gather of info so far. Police are still considering the possibility that he did not act alone.

[list][*]Name: Anders Behring Breivik[*]Age 32[*]Ethnic Norwegian[*]Considers himself a nationalist[*]Interviewed childhood friends says he turned extreme right wing towards the end of his 20s.[*]No earlier crimes and is unknown to the police[*]Considers himself conservative Christian[*]Started a company in 2009 called Geofarm and stated it would do farming. Using this company he got access to a lot of artifical fertilizers (means that this has been planned for some time)[*]Created a Twitter account 1 month ago and has only tweeted one tweet: «One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests»[*]Has been very active on online communities against "internationalism" (Document.no is one such site and has published all of his posts as a response to the events - [url="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/"]norsk[/url]/[url="http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwebcache.googleusercontent.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.document.no%2Fanders-behring-breivik%2F"]english[/url].) ([url="http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4181616.ece"]Nordisk.nu - a nazi-online community[/url])[*]Has strong opinions against immigrants, especially muslims[*]Is member of a pistol club and is a registered gun owner - has 2 registered guns[*]Lived most his life in Oslo (west side), but recently moved to Hedemark (further north)[*]Freemasonry member[*]Was a member of FrpU, the youth wing of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_%28Norway"]Frp[/url]).[/list] [b]About the theory that may have been more shooters[/b]:

[list][*]Police just arrested a young man at a hotel close by in possession of a knife. He claimed he did not feel safe and it is still unconfirmed if he was involved in the massacre. He claimed he was a member of the Labour youth party ([url="http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.7724065"]more[/url])[*]Some news sources say the police are concerned that a second shooter might be free while others say are not looking for anyone in particular and nothing is conclusive ([url="http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.77240009"]more[/url]) ([url="http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4181342.ece"]more[/url])[*]Some news sources say witnesses describe a second shooter dressed in civilian clothing and that police are investigating the witness statements. ([url="http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10080633"]more[/url])[/list] [b]Witness stories:[/b]
(Note: the translation may not be 100% accurate)

[list][*]"He came to the island saying he was a police officer. Asked everyone to gather around and then began to shoot. He shot widely around himself. First no one believed that it actually was happening. We thought it was just the [bulls.hit], until we saw people with blood and... yeah... Then everyone began to run."
[i]Did you see anyone who were dead?[/i] "I... many. Very many." [i]Can you say a number?[/i] "Around 15 when I was there trying to help by the beach. People were either shot or had drowned in the water. It was not a good sight. Everyone ran towards the forrest. There were injured people who we carried. People tried to hide, but then he came to them saying he was the police here to rescue them. When people approached him he shot them." (more in the [url="http://www.vgtv.no/#%21id=42427"]video[/url])[*]"The first thing he did was to shoot the cutest girl he saw." ([url="http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vg.no%2Fnyheter%2Finnenriks%2Foslobomben%2Fartikkel.php%3Fartid%3D10080627"]article[/url])[*]"He reloaded, shot more. He shot around me. I was lying still thinking: this is the end". [i]She played dead over 1 hour lying among bodies[/i] ([url="http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10080635"]article[/url] / [url="http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fprableen.origo.no%2F-%2Fbulletin%2Fshow%2F672218_helvete-paa-utoeya"]blog post by the witness[/url])[*]"He shot people in the head to make sure they were dead" ([url="http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tv2.no%2Fnyheter%2Finnenriks%2F-gjerningsmannen-skjoet-folk-i-hodet-for-aa-forsikre-seg-om-at-de-var-doede-3544714.html"]article[/url])[*]"I felt the heat from his gun" ... "Some people ran and hid in their tents. He went systematically from tent to tent with an automatic rifle and fired single shots. It was apparent that he wanted every shot to count." ... "Many took off their clothes and tried to swim. I tried to swim with my clothes on, which began to get heavy in the water, so I had to turn around. I hid on the beach with another group. He eventually came back and fired into the group. I played dead and lied down among the bodies. At the closest he was 2-3 meters away from me." [i]Adrian Pracon, a survivor, was shot in the shoulder[/i] "I did not feel the shot at first. It was very loud and I was deaf in one ear for a while. It felt like pinch. The pain came afterwards" ... "It almost seemed like he had done this before. Walking around and shooting people seemed normal to him." ([url="http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aftenposten.no%2Fnyheter%2Firiks%2Farticle4181394.ece"]article[/url])[/list] links below are NSFL:

[list][*]Video from the island: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj2ySvguk9M&skipcontrinter=1"]http://www.youtube.c...kipcontrinter=1[/url] (via pooprocks)[*]Shooter mid-spree: [url="http://i.imgur.com/KgUmy.jpg"]http://i.imgur.com/KgUmy.jpg[/url] (via tyeg)[*]Video of the island filmed from a boat. Those white spots are bodies covered with plastic or towels. Police are still looking in the water, and numbers may still rise: [url="http://www.vgtv.no/#%21id=42425"]http://www.vgtv.no/#!id=42425[/url][/list] Sources:

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Edited July 23, 2011 by Jesus_lol

[Lil Red]

thanks j - so much devastation...it is simply incredible.

i saw this on through a Catholic blog and posted to my facebook page:
Vi sørger med deg, Norge. (We grieve with thee, Norway.)
Kan dine barn hvile i fred. (May thy children rest in peace.)

i literally want to cry because of all this destruction - this systematic, chilling, and brutal killing. absolutely awful.

[Azriel]

This is truly horrific. So unimaginable, and yet there it is staring at us.

[CatherineM]

I have to remind myself to stop watching the news coverage after a certain amount of time, or it just crushes me.