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I still don't see how he would have standing unless he was actually a student living in the dorms.


UNC has single-sex floors. There is one dorm that is arguable single sex in that the building is divided by on open air common area and each side of the area houses a single sex. It's a pretty secular school and I've never heard of anyone having a problem with it. It's not like your social life is tied to you hall. Unless it's your first week of your first year.

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Archaeology cat

[quote name='faithcecelia' timestamp='1310949570' post='2268985']
By dorms do you mean seperate rooms? Like we call Halls of residence? If so I don't see that mixed or single-sex would make any difference at all, peple will do what they are going to do regardless. If dorm means the same as here (ie rooms with lots of beds) then yes I would agree with single sex.
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Yeah, it's set up different than in the UK. At my uni (in Indiana), there were 3 single-sex dorms, 1 completely co-ed dorm (where it wasn't segregated by floor), and 2 co-ed dorms that were segregated by floor. They also had a number of apartments and houses. In the single-sex dorms, there were curfews so that visitors couldn't be in after a certain time, but I don't know how much that was enforced.

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homeschoolmom

[quote name='CatherineM' timestamp='1310964072' post='2269224']
Are they being forced to live in the dorms? My college didn't force anyone. There is the option of living off-campus. The big issue is that some parents won't pay for off campus apartments or houses. They think dorms are safer, cheaper, and keep their kids under control better.
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I always thought Freshmen were expected to live on campus unless they were commuting from home.

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lol .... my dorms were always co-ed ... of course each individual room was single sex.. of course plenty of member of both sexes walking in and out of the bathrooms in just towels... meh..

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IgnatiusofLoyola

[quote name='Deus_te_Amat' timestamp='1310970098' post='2269265']
Just so you know, more and more colleges are going with "gender neutral" bathrooms. The college I'm doing research at this summer has them, and so (apparently) does Cornell, Berkeley (to be expected), and others.

:crazy:

Most secular summer of my life.
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Personally, I'd expect a Catholic college to have single-sex dorms. I doubt the college requires students to live in a dorm, so the student has the option to live off campus. And, it's not as if a student is REQUIRED to attend that college in the first place.

FYI--The secular schools that have coed dorms, coed floors, and yes, sometimes coed bathrooms, and now, at some schools, coed rooms, virtually all offer students the option of same sex-buildings or at least same-sex floors or wings. If a college can't give a student a dorm option that fits what the student feels comfortable with, the student can go to college somewhere else. But, even secular colleges offer single-sex dorms or floors because some students want them for religious reasons, and the school wants to accomodate the wishes/requirements of those students.

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[quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1310988288' post='2269322']
I always thought Freshmen were expected to live on campus unless they were commuting from home.
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I think this is the case in most large universities, but possibly not across the board. Its certainly what you hear more of.

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[quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1310988288' post='2269322']
I always thought Freshmen were expected to live on campus unless they were commuting from home.
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That's the way it was at my last uni and the one I'm at now. At the one I'm at now, they accepted so many freshmen that everyone else is facing a raffle to see if they can even get in the dorms or if they need to find apartments ASAP at the end of summer.

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Basilisa Marie

[quote name='BG45' timestamp='1311004832' post='2269443']
That's the way it was at my last uni and the one I'm at now. At the one I'm at now, they accepted so many freshmen that everyone else is facing a raffle to see if they can even get in the dorms or if they need to find apartments ASAP at the end of summer.
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Lol, something similar happened at my alma mater going into this year. They accepted lots of people, but about 80 more than expected enrolled (a class is about 400-500 students), and they guarantee on-campus housing. Whoops. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif[/img] Looks like they'll be turning the doubles into triples. Luckily I don't think they've made any of the upperclassmen re-enter a lottery for housing.

[quote][color=#595959][font=arial, verdana, sans-serif][size=4]Just so you know, more and more colleges are going with "gender neutral" bathrooms. The college I'm doing research at this summer has them, and so (apparently) does Cornell, Berkeley (to be expected), and others. [/size][/font][/color]
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Yeah, I've heard of a bunch of the big ones doing that. Some people say it's partially to "accommodate" a growing LGBTQ population on campus. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/idontknow.gif[/img] But like it's been said, I don't think there's a whole campus like that yet.

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[quote name='Basilisa Marie' timestamp='1311010777' post='2269505']
Lol, something similar happened at my alma mater going into this year. They accepted lots of people, but about 80 more than expected enrolled (a class is about 400-500 students), and they guarantee on-campus housing. Whoops. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif[/img] Looks like they'll be turning the doubles into triples. Luckily I don't think they've made any of the upperclassmen re-enter a lottery for housing.


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Ouch! Yeah my last school over-enrolled by a small amount and ended up putting some Freshmen in a local hotel.

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Gender neutral bathrooms allows them to re-purpose the building if they get a change in demographics.

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[quote name='Deus_te_Amat' timestamp='1310970098' post='2269265']
Just so you know, more and more colleges are going with "gender neutral" bathrooms. The college I'm doing research at this summer has them, and so (apparently) does Cornell, Berkeley (to be expected), and others.

:crazy:

Most secular summer of my life.
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University of Pennsylvania has gender neutral bathrooms in certain dorms. I was in one of them in the early 90s. (it was an upper classmen dorm -- as a woman I figured out ways to get my privacy i.e. lock the whole bathroom door, oh well the other shower and stall couldn't be used :P)

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Deus te Amat

[quote name='cmariadiaz' timestamp='1311023139' post='2269619']
University of Pennsylvania has gender neutral bathrooms in certain dorms. I was in one of them in the early 90s. (it was an upper classmen dorm -- as a woman I figured out ways to get my privacy i.e. lock the whole bathroom door, oh well the other shower and stall couldn't be used :P)
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Great idea, but this particular bathroom doesn't have a lock on the door, there is a rather large crack on the side of the toilet stall, and there is no "lock" on the shower door (it's one of those magnetic things).

It's been interesting, and I had no choice in my summer housing.

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We can't let anyone impede in any way the most fundamental and inalienable of all rights, to which everything else must be subservient in modern society - the absolute right of everybody to copulate with whomever or whatever whenever and wherever one desires (and, of course, the attendant absolute right to get an abortion in the case that said copulation results in an unwanted pregnancy).

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homeschoolmom

[quote name='Basilisa Marie' timestamp='1311010777' post='2269505']
Lol, something similar happened at my alma mater going into this year. They accepted lots of people, but about 80 more than expected enrolled (a class is about 400-500 students), and they guarantee on-campus housing. Whoops. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif[/img] Looks like they'll be turning the doubles into triples. Luckily I don't think they've made any of the upperclassmen re-enter a lottery for housing. [/quote]

Something like that happened at my university one year. Usually they have to turn study lounges into dorm rooms, but one year they had too many students for that to solve the problem. So, they made arrangements at the neighboring hotel (a Holiday Inn, I think...) for about 50 students to live there until housing opened up second semester.

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