Basilisa Marie Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='faithcecelia' timestamp='1310949570' post='2268985'] By dorms do you mean seperate rooms? Like we call Halls of residence? If so I don't see that mixed or single-sex would make any difference at all, peple will do what they are going to do regardless. If dorm means the same as here (ie rooms with lots of beds) then yes I would agree with single sex. [/quote] Separate buildings. And most have 2-3 beds in each room, with a shared bathroom for the floor. That's what most US colleges mean when they say "dorm-style" housing. There are actually some studies done (I can't remember which ones) that suggest a correlation between binge drinking/underage drinking/casual sex and having mixed genders in the same building. I was an RA for 3 years in college, and my personal experience supports this. The buildings that had co-ed floors (but same gender suites/apartments) had the most drinking, statistically speaking, and heavier drinking at that. Students will get around the rules if they really want to have sex, but if you reduce the drinking, you're also reduce incidence of casual sex. My university was a Catholic institution in the Newman Guide as well. I think it'll make a world of difference in the number of incidents and transports to the hospital for Catholic U. They're starting with the freshmen, so with each successive class the students won't know anything BUT single-gendered dorms. That law professor has not a leg to stand on. If he goes after Catholic U for this, every single US college that has a single gender dorm (even just one) would be under attack. It's completely frivolous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeresaBenedicta Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I seem to remember reading something that said the professor had some law or another on his side- only for the DC area, though. Can't remember where I read that. Anyways. I think it's a great move by Catholic U- and not just b/c there might be less sex. But for the physical, emotional, and academic well-being of the students as well. It's a step in the right direction of changing the collegiate atmosphere. Most kids think about college as a place to party and make friends... school is secondary, if that. While this won't single-handedly change that, it's definitely a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='Basilisa Marie' timestamp='1310952519' post='2269050'] There are actually some studies done (I can't remember which ones) that suggest a correlation between binge drinking/underage drinking/casual sex and having mixed genders in the same building. I was an RA for 3 years in college, and my personal experience supports this. The buildings that had co-ed floors (but same gender suites/apartments) had the most drinking, statistically speaking, and heavier drinking at that. Students will get around the rules if they really want to have sex, but if you reduce the drinking, you're also reduce incidence of casual sex. My university was a Catholic institution in the Newman Guide as well. [/quote] I lived with my RA in college for two years, my experience supports this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulBride Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='kujo' timestamp='1310950171' post='2269009'] Um, maybe I'm wrong, but isn't it fairly common place to have same-sex dorms? That's kinda the standard, no? [/quote] I thought so too; I went to a public university and there were a lot of same sex dorms that didn't allow males AT ALL!! the ones that have co-ed dorms are same sex floors... Leave it to society to act as if it is up to them to "fix" the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulBride Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='thedude' timestamp='1310951187' post='2269028'] I wholeheartedly support making college guys get outside the building to meet girls. [/quote] Like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faithcecelia Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='Basilisa Marie' timestamp='1310952519' post='2269050'] Separate buildings. And most have 2-3 beds in each room, with a shared bathroom for the floor. That's what most US colleges mean when they say "dorm-style" housing. . [/quote] Ah, thats simply not a situation you would get here, its all single rooms now and has been for a long time - when I was looking at uni my college did have a few shared rooms still but only twins and it was the last year they were offered. As it was a ladies college it was all single sex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 How does he have standing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulBride Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1310957955' post='2269133'] How does he have standing? [/quote] He doesn't, at least it doesn't seem so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximilianus Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1310957955' post='2269133'] How does he have standing? [/quote] I would like to know this as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) [quote][font="Arial, sans-serif"]John Banzhaf, who has won more than 100 sex-discrimination legal actions under the D.C. Human Rights Act, has issued an intent-to-sue legal notice to Catholic University.[/font][font="Arial, sans-serif"][size="3"]The District's anti-discrimination law prohibits any discrimination based directly or indirectly upon sex unless it is strictly necessary for the entity to remain in business. The intent-to-sue notices asks Catholic University to provide any legal arguments and authority they may have that forcing students to live in sex-segregated dormitories would not constitute illegal sex discrimination under the Act.[/size] [/font][/quote] From here: [url="http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/dc/catholic-university-going-back-to-single-sex-dorms-062011"]http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/dc/catholic-university-going-back-to-single-sex-dorms-062011[/url] Ah...this might be where he's getting his standing. Edited July 18, 2011 by Basilisa Marie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulBride Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='Basilisa Marie' timestamp='1310962567' post='2269204'] From here: [url="http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/dc/catholic-university-going-back-to-single-sex-dorms-062011"]http://www.myfoxdc.c...ex-dorms-062011[/url] Ah...this might be where he's getting his standing. [/quote] I don't see how that gives him standing. How is it discrimination to mandate single sex dorms? Are they being discriminated against when it comes to their "right' to live in co-ed dorms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='HopefulBride' timestamp='1310962888' post='2269209'] I don't see how that gives him standing. How is it discrimination to mandate single sex dorms? Are they being discriminated against when it comes to their "right' to live in co-ed dorms? [/quote] In theory (devil's advocate here), Catholic U needs to have single gender floors or suites to remain in business, because there are no coed bathrooms. One might argue that expanding that to entire dorms is excessive. But I don't see how there's any way that he'll win on that. Designating a building for female resides would effectively turn all the bathrooms into women's bathrooms, and vice versa. Having separate living spaces for genders, in whatever form, is part of having a residential college. Unless all the men are given substandard living spaces compared to the women (for example), I'm not sure how any judge can really take this seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Are they being forced to live in the dorms? My college didn't force anyone. There is the option of living off-campus. The big issue is that some parents won't pay for off campus apartments or houses. They think dorms are safer, cheaper, and keep their kids under control better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 this guy sounds like a major arse portal Imagine if he put all that effort into, I dunno, fighting real discrimination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus te Amat Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Basilisa Marie' timestamp='1310963655' post='2269220'] In theory (devil's advocate here), Catholic U needs to have single gender floors or suites to remain in business, because there are no coed bathrooms. One might argue that expanding that to entire dorms is excessive. [/quote] Just so you know, more and more colleges are going with "gender neutral" bathrooms. The college I'm doing research at this summer has them, and so (apparently) does Cornell, Berkeley (to be expected), and others. Most secular summer of my life. Edited July 18, 2011 by Deus_te_Amat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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