StMichael Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Laughable that Bachmann would be called unqualified when the idiot currently occupying the White House still doesn't have any experience. Obama, we know went to Harvard, thereafter pretty much did not do much and did not belong to any law firm nor was he anything more than lecturer and community organizer. Never held a job. Never worked in the private sector. Heck we don't even know what his grades were in school. Bachmann, became a lawyer, then a tax lawyer. She received a degree from William & Mary, which is the nations oldest law school. We know she has business experience as her and her husband have one. Obama was a State Senator 1997-2004, and then a US Senator from 2005 -2008. Bachmann was a State Senator from 2000-2006, then became a US Congresswoman in 2007. If she was to win, she would have far more time spent in State & US government representation than Obama had when he took his oath. In my opinion, if a pea ran against Obama I would vote for the pea. The pea won't lie everytime it opens it mouth and it certainly wouldn't create an environment where utter evils can carry on from destruction of our economy to the destruction of the family. 11.6.12 can't get here soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 [quote name='StMichael' timestamp='1310793716' post='2268118'] the idiot currently occupying the White House still doesn't have any experience.[/quote] [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=114013&view=findpost&p=2268089"]see this is what i'm talking about[/url]. was this necessary? the rest of your post accurately summed up how you feel about both Obama and Bachmann, so why the name-calling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 [quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1310780220' post='2268024'] For all the crowing about Obama's lack of experience, and getting elected on personality alone, the Republican party seems to be sprouting unexperienced, loud mouthed and ignorant candidates who amass votes from pure emotion and soundbytes.. [/quote] i don't think of Mitch Daniels that way. (yes, i'm aware he's not running)[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1310778108' post='2268009'] Better than his experience in the U.S. senate! I read once that he had the worst attendance during his brief stint as a senator! :smh: [/quote] really? wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1310793841' post='2268119'] [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=114013&view=findpost&p=2268089"]see this is what i'm talking about[/url]. was this necessary? the rest of your post accurately summed up how you feel about both Obama and Bachmann, so why the name-calling? [/quote] right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 [quote name='StMichael' timestamp='1310793716' post='2268118'] Laughable that Bachmann would be called unqualified when the idiot currently occupying the White House still doesn't have any experience. Obama, we know went to Harvard, thereafter pretty much did not do much and did not belong to any law firm nor was he anything more than lecturer and community organizer. Never held a job. Never worked in the private sector. Heck we don't even know what his grades were in school. Bachmann, became a lawyer, then a tax lawyer. She received a degree from William & Mary, which is the nations oldest law school. We know she has business experience as her and her husband have one. Obama was a State Senator 1997-2004, and then a US Senator from 2005 -2008. Bachmann was a State Senator from 2000-2006, then became a US Congresswoman in 2007. If she was to win, she would have far more time spent in State & US government representation than Obama had when he took his oath. In my opinion, if a pea ran against Obama I would vote for the pea. The pea won't lie everytime it opens it mouth and it certainly wouldn't create an environment where utter evils can carry on from destruction of our economy to the destruction of the family. 11.6.12 can't get here soon enough. [/quote] Oh right, I forgot the old "You think that's bad? Listen to how bad THIS thing is!!" principle. Duly noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 [quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1310783475' post='2268035'] Just because someone doesn't have the same point of view that you do doesn't mean that they have a tenuous grip on reality. [/quote] i was about to reply and then... [quote name='kujo' timestamp='1310784612' post='2268044'] Very true. However, Sarah Palin has a tenuous grip on reality. [/quote] Kujo stole my line I am completely aware of that Lil Red. I know many people with differing views than mine, and most of them have a decent grip on reality. (at least a couple of you PMers do ), but Sarah Palin does not actually have a good grip on reality. posting examples would be both redundant, time consuming and pages and pages long. [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1310793974' post='2268120'] i don't think of Mitch Daniels that way. (yes, i'm aware he's not running) [/quote] Who is he? (he aint running, but i wouldnt mind knowing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitelord1 Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 (edited) [quote name='dells_of_bittersweet' timestamp='1310426824' post='2265991'] I think Michelle Bauchman is right on some of the issues, but beyond that, she's a danger to the Republican Party. She's not electable, and I think the media is running a pump and dump scheme with her. Someone who believes in teaching 6 day creationism in public schools can't make it through the general election. [/quote] I don't know enough about her yet. Edited July 16, 2011 by infinitelord1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 [quote name='StMichael' timestamp='1310793716' post='2268118'] Laughable that Bachmann would be called unqualified when the idiot currently occupying the White House still doesn't have any experience.[/quote] Considering it is I who continues to drum the "she's unqualified" beat, it's my duty to inform you that I've always done so by saying that Obama [i]also[/i] was incredibly inexperienced when elected. [quote]If she was to win, she would have far more time spent in State & US government representation than Obama had when he took his oath. [/quote] Actually, she'll have served roughly the same amount of time as Obama (~12 years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 [quote name='kujo' timestamp='1310809866' post='2268144'] Actually, she'll have served roughly the same amount of time as Obama (~12 years). [/quote] But I think his point was, that in addition to experience in public office, she also has experience in tax law and in business (her husband's practice). Obama's only other experience is "community organzier" (which, I still don't know what that is...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 [quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1310815000' post='2268150'] But I think his point was, that in addition to experience in public office, she also has experience in tax law and in business (her husband's practice). Obama's only other experience is "community organzier" (which, I still don't know what that is...) [/quote] She's a lawyer...Obama's a lawyer. She's a partner in a business that evidently supports the idea that you can just "pray" your homosexuality away...Obama isn't. Same candidate; different gender and race. Same outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamiller42 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 [quote name='kujo' timestamp='1310778108' post='2268009'] So her ignorance of what seems like a fairly central tenet of the teachings of the church she attended up until about a year ago (coincidence?) is forgivable because she's "busy?" Because that's what it boils down to--either she was "ignorant" of the teaching, or she knew of it. There's no middle ground here. If she didn't know it, I'd find that hard to believe. But if she DID know it, and continued attending that church--until, of course, she became more "busy" visiting early primary states about a year ago-- then she's got a problem to answer for.[/quote] Do not mix two points of discussion. My "she's been busy" comment was in regards to her experience and nothing to do with the church situation. Please exercise some integrity in the conversation. Thank you. [quote]But again, I have to wonder whether your eagerness to write this off would manifest itself if we were talking about a Democrat. [/quote] The interesting thing about an apple and an orange is they share many characteristics; both are fruit, round, colorful, and tasty. Yet, they are different. And so is the case of Bachmann unaware of a corner of her church's doctrine and Obama and the very vocal Rev. Wright church he attended for 20 years. [quote]What, you want a number? How about L-7 weeny? [/quote] Quantify, as in provide by what measure you make such accusations. Otherwise, you're just a noisy gong, a clanging cymbal. [quote name='kujo' timestamp='1310850922' post='2268320'] She's a lawyer...Obama's a lawyer. She's a partner in a business that evidently supports the idea that you can just "pray" your homosexuality away...Obama isn't. Same candidate; different gender and race. Same outcome. [/quote] Bachmann holds two law degrees. Obama has one. Bachmann knows tax law and has worked for the IRS; she knows the destructive power of over taxation. Obama was a constitutional law professor and knows very little of the U.S. Constitution. It's clear Bachmann used her experience to gain wisdom while Obama did not. Bachmann's business experience goes beyond the clinic. As a partial owner of a substantial amount of farm land, she is involved in the agricultural business. And, IMO, her dealings in this are more than likely more honorable than [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rezko#Ties_to_Barack_Obama"]Obama's real estate[/url] ventures. True. Obama would never be in a business which would assist people live righteously. [url="https://www.priestsforlife.org/testimony/jillstanektestimony.htm"]He would rather enable mothers to participate in infanticide[/url]. While Obama was a community organizer, Bachmann was/is a community activist, a case of "sayer" vs. "doer." Bachmann was also active in her state legislature unlike Obama who voted "present" a majority of the time. Voting "present" is the political equivalent of sitting on your arse and doing nothing. Another case of doer (Bachmann) vs. sayer (Obama). Bachmann is more qualified than Obama. And even if they were evenly matched, the American public felt Obama was qualified enough to be president. So, Bachmann's experience is a non-issue. Quite frankly, given your standards for qualification, I doubt George Washington or Abraham Lincoln would have qualified to be president. At this point, I personally prefer my presidential candidate to have less political experience. It's professional politicians that have gotten us in this miss. I would like Mr. Smith in Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catholicinsd Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Mrs. Bachmann only advances stereo-types of Minnesotans lacking mentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 [quote name='IrishGermanNorwegian' timestamp='1311093440' post='2270164'] Mrs. Bachmann only advances stereo-types of Minnesotans lacking mentally. [/quote] Hi. Welcome to Phatmass. Don't rip on Minnesotans... even in jest. you ---> <--- Me, a Minnesotan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 [quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1311095048' post='2270172'] Hi. Welcome to Phatmass. Don't rip on Minnesotans... even in jest. [/quote] [size="1"]No, but really, go ahead. They're too busy with their 10,000 lakes and their talking like they're in the movie Fargo to notice.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Knight Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 [quote name='dells_of_bittersweet' timestamp='1310426824' post='2265991'] I think Michelle Bauchman is right on some of the issues, but beyond that, she's a danger to the Republican Party.[b] She's not electable[/b], and I think the media is running a pump and dump scheme with her. Someone who believes in teaching 6 day creationism in public schools can't make it through the general election. [/quote] All other issues with Mrs. Bachmann aside, the [b][i]electability[/i][/b] of a candidate [b][i]should[/i][/b] have no bearing on whether or not you vote for them. The objective is to elect a candidate that best reflects what you, the constituent, believe the Republic, or the State, should be doing, or [b]NOT[/b] doing. If people only vote for the electable candidate than we get the government we deserve. My recommendation during this next election cycle is to do the necessary research on as many candidates as you can and vote based on principles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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