GraceUk Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I was wondering how long it would be before the church gives a ruling on Medjugorje. I am deeply sceptical. In fact I don't believe in it at all. And think they are all fakes. But this has sometimes made me feel guilty if I'm wrong. I was looking up a few articles and some seemed to say that Pope Benedict isn't at all convinced that they are genuine. So why doesn't the church rule on them once and for all. I know they have to take time but this has been going on for years and years. And if they are fakes it isn't good that the trips are called pilgrimages and advertised as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixpence Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I think they need to wait until it is finished before they begin make decisions.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 As long as there are continuing visitations or visions, or whatever they call them, the Church can't really say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Hepburn Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Sorry if this has already been posted, but July 13, Wed on ABC there is a special on miracles and healngs - it looked like alot was on Mary. 10/E 9/C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MargaretTeresa Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 This shall be interesting. The TV show, that is. I have a friend of a friend who visited there and became convince of it and had some type of revelation. He just finished RCIA and joined the Church this past EAster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I don't give it one thought...yet. Until the Church gives its decision no one is entitled, on behalf of the Church, to presume a favorable judgment regarding the apparitions in Medjugorje. That is why the Church does not approve pilgrimages and other manifestations organized on the presumption that a supernatural character can be attributed to the facts of Medjugorje. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 These things can take years. As far as I know, until there is an official ruling at the conclusion of the investigation, parishes and the like can't run any official pilgrimages to them. Other organizations, like private groups, can do so though. That doesn't mean they're invalid, just that we have to know before we do anything that makes it look like the Church approves in some capacity. You're completely free to believe or not believe in any Marian apparition. By "approving" an apparition the Church just says that it's worthy of belief, not that it's required. I think one of the problems with Medjugorje is that there are so many different revelations, and each one must be investigated. That's why ones like Fatima were easier - because there were a limited number of apparitions. And each new revelation has to be evaluated before the Church can say the whole thing is valid. So until the apparitions stop, I don't see how the Church can officially rule, once and for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 I'm highly skeptical, but whether or not they are authentic, God wastes no time in taking the opportunity to shake people up and convert them using their medjugorje experiences as a stepping stone ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faithcecelia Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 [quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1310537807' post='2266779'] I'm highly skeptical, but whether or not they are authentic, God wastes no time in taking the opportunity to shake people up and convert them using their medjugorje experiences as a stepping stone ... [/quote] Have to agree. I know people who have gone feeling sceptical and even come home so, but have also had real conversion experiences during and after their trips. I have no strong feelings either way, I must admit I have given it virtually no thought, but I do know that people have been sceptical about many (or even) all such appearances at various times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceUk Posted July 13, 2011 Author Share Posted July 13, 2011 Well I must say from a personal point of view I like things cut and dried and think the church should give a ruling. I don't like the idea of priests and even bishops participating in this when it could be a huge fraud. I think a ruling on this is well overdue. This is probably in the wrong section as it says no debating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Most apparitions are not approved until the visonaries are dead. Of course Lucia lived after fatima but the other two didn't. The local bishop is not in favor of mejugorie but then neither was the bishop at fatima. The Church takes its time no these things but has not given a condemnation. If the aparition is not healthy they will generally say so early on. Bayside New York is one example.GraceUk, the Church has been at this for quite some time. Let's trust her wisdom in these matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 A youth group I'm a part of is hardcore devoted to the apparitions of Our Lady at Betania (Venezuela). I, too, am skeptical, even with the approval of the bishop over there. I've also met the adult granddaughter of the visionary. They are all wonderful people and so many conversions have come from Betania, which is great, but I just don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissScripture Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 [quote name='MissyP89' timestamp='1313029602' post='2285649'] A youth group I'm a part of is hardcore devoted to the apparitions of Our Lady at Betania (Venezuela). I, too, am skeptical, even with the approval of the bishop over there. I've also met the adult granddaughter of the visionary. They are all wonderful people and so many conversions have come from Betania, which is great, but I just don't know. [/quote] Well, even if they are approved, you're never required to believe private revelations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i<3franciscans Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I know that they will not do anything till the "visions" are finished, but I have no serious feelings either way. I do not contradict people that believe in it. I will wait for the Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byzantine Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 I don't know... Is there any precedent for the Theotokos appearing so many times? It seems like she usually appears a couple of times and then that's the end... Not like this with so many appearances, if they are appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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