Dunking The Host/intinction

[Ash Wednesday]

I had heard about it, and every so often I heard of people doing it and getting scolded by the priest for it. But I attended mass at a church today that I normally don't like to attend and the priest told the congregation (specifically the east Indians) that if they weren't used to taking the wine and were concerned about hygiene they could take the host and dunk it in the wine.

What???

I thought this wasn't permitted, at least in the Latin rite. Can the priest permit people to do this? I know this is done in eastern rites but it's done by the priest, not by yourself.

?????

[faithcecelia]

I looked into this some time ago after I was told to do it (I didn't as I wasn't sure, I just recieved under one kind) and yes you are right, it is not permitted. Unless the rules have changed in the last 2yrs.

[Vincent Vega]

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no.

[quote][104.] The communicant must not be permitted to intinct the host himself in the chalice, nor to receive the intincted host in the hand. As for the host to be used for the intinction, it should be made of valid matter, also consecrated; it is altogether forbidden to use non-consecrated bread or other matter.[/quote]
[url="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccdds/documents/rc_con_ccdds_doc_20040423_redemptionis-sacramentum_en.html"]Redemptionis Sacramentum[/url]

[Ed Normile]

Yup, this is grave error on the part of the priest. Say a prayer for him.

ed

[faithcecelia]

As a totally irrelevant aside, as the Church says what it says and that is what matters, I cannot see how intinction could be considered hygenic either - whether its lips or fingers touching the Precious Blood there will be a few germs, just like there are on door handles and in the air we breathe!

[Ash Wednesday]

The priest also throws a fit about people taking communion on the tongue, also supposedly out of concern for hygiene but I also find that to be pretty bogus, to be honest.

Do I contact the bishop? I've never done that before.

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='Ash Wednesday' timestamp='1310325881' post='2265401']
Do I contact the bishop? I've never done that before.
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I would, particularly since he also forbids receiving on the tongue, which is something he is not allowed to do.

EDIT: I would speak in private with the priest about it first though, and perhaps show him the pertinent section of R.S.

Edited July 10, 2011 by USAirwaysIHS

[Ash Wednesday]

I don't think he forbids it but he makes parishioners feel like they're being difficult or imprudent if they do take it on the tongue. I'm more than a little concerned about how to confront the priest about this, I find him to be hostile and stubbornly modernistic. Please pray for this situation.

Edited July 10, 2011 by Ash Wednesday

[Ed Normile]

I have seen priests who seem to freak out when I receive on the tongue. I can not help but think sometimes that the deceiver must be laughing heartily at the thought of germs being on the minds of those about to receive or distribute the Body of Christ.

ed

[faithcecelia]

[quote name='Ed Normile' timestamp='1310326309' post='2265408']
I have seen priests who seem to freak out when I receive on the tongue. I can not help but think sometimes that the deceiver must be laughing heartily at the thought of germs being on the minds of those about to receive or distribute the Body of Christ.

ed
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Do they allow communion under both kinds? If so they must die a thousand deaths at the thought of consuming the remaining Precious Blood

[Maximilianus]

If a priest is going to gripe about communion on the tongue and use hygiene as a reason he might as well skip the Sign of Peace in which everybody contaminates everybody's grubby hands.

[abrideofChrist]

At first I thought you were talking about intinction, which is when the priest/deacon/emhc dips the Host into the chalice and gives the communicant both Species... What you are describing is called self-intinction, which is absolutely forbidden. Intinction, is a traditional way of distributing Communion under both kinds without as much risk as the other methods (I actually think that if there are no alcoholics/celiacs, it's the best route because it prevents the Host from being stolen for nefarious purposes).

[regina_coeli]

[quote name='abrideofChrist' timestamp='1310345313' post='2265508']
At first I thought you were talking about intinction, which is when the priest/deacon/emhc dips the Host into the chalice and gives the communicant both Species... What you are describing is called self-intinction, which is absolutely forbidden. Intinction, is a traditional way of distributing Communion under both kinds without as much risk as the other methods (I actually think that if there are no alcoholics/celiacs, it's the best route because it prevents the Host from being stolen for nefarious purposes).
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I have only seen intinction once in my diocese, and thought it was the best of all options. Have wondered since why it wasn't more common.

[Mary Magdalene]

A few priests I know allow people to dip the host in the wine before consuming it. A very big NO, NO.
But as it has aleady been suggested a quiet word with the priest might work. Praying for this priest

[Mercy me]

I encountered intinction once at my parish. It was a bit confusing until I found out that the substitute priest doing it was not of the Roman Rite. Self-intinction is absolutely a no-no.