Fish!

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Edited July 6, 2011 by vee8

[Chrysophylax]

[quote name='vee8' timestamp='1309913828' post='2263427']
quit wasting fish
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I AGREE!!
DS, you showed a shocking want of conduct in your dealings with those poor fish!
Write on the chalkboard "I should not waste yummy fish" 100 times. Then write a 500 word essay on why fish should be respected and cherished.

[OnlySunshine]

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[Debra Little]

[quote name='faithcecelia' timestamp='1309721867' post='2262718']
Bit of an odd one but advice would be welcome.

I went veggie at age 9, so 22yrs ago. I was vegan for a few years but gave that up to enter Carmel, however I was allowed to continue to abstain from fish. As I (God willing) approach re-entry I have decided to eat fish this time. Due to some serious food allergies, and a dairy intolerance diagnosed since I left, the last thing I want is to come across as a fussy eater, because aside from 'needs' I'm not.

However, the thought of fish turns my stomach - my decision to eat it is based on obedience not my morals changing and I do still feel uncomfortable with it. As I will be going for a live-in within a few weeks, I was wondering if anyone had any advice on how to break myself in to eating it again so I can get used to it rather than recoil in horror at a plate of pilchards!!!! Thanks.
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went til Lent honey. you will be having fish almost every meal. but seriously i think you could
have a talk with the prioress and tell her your feelings before you enter. they understand
personal convictions.

[Debra Little]

[quote name='MaterMisericordiae' timestamp='1309912805' post='2263412']
I hated fish as a kid but my mom would always cook it. Sometimes I was forced to eat it and couldn't stomach the stuff very well. Fish sticks, in my opinion, are absolutely disgusting. They are not good at all.

A few years ago, my mom started buying pre-packaged salmon fillets at the grocery store and would cook them on the George Foreman grill with salmon seasoning. I learned to love fish through eating it because it is delicious and very healthy fish. It's really good when it's cooked in olive oil which I have done a few times when I didn't want to worry about cleaning the grill. It's very moist and flaky.

I also think that Orange Roughy is very good as is Mahi Mahi. Both of them have good flavor and are not "fishy" tasting. Tilapia is good and is very mild. I have also come to love Rainbow Trout. You might want to try either salmon or Mahi Mahi first. They are good, fatty fish.

Also, if you try salmon or any other fish, make sure you do not buy the farmed kind. They are not healthy. Wild Alaskan Salmon is the best.
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this is very good advice! the white fish tend to be milder tasting.

[MithLuin]

Fish and chips! You can eat the potatoes and just nibble at the fish (to start with).

Salmon can be lovely with cucumbers. It's also easy to tell when it's cooked, because it turns light pink.

Recipes: [url=http://kidscooking.about.com/od/dinnerrecipes/r/salmoncucsalsa.htm]Salmon in skillet + cucumber salsa[/url]
[url=http://www.cooks.com/rec/view/0,1717,159164-246200,00.html]Broiled Salmon + Dill Cucumber sauce[/url]
Or an alternative: [url=http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Grilled-Salmon-I/Detail.aspx]Grilled salmon with soy sauce/brown sugar marinade[/url]

Tuna steaks are also good.

If you want, you can try sushi...it's quite good, but I imagine that's not where most people start with eating fish! But if you do try sushi, you might want to try things called 'tempura' as that is cooked, not raw. Or you can try the korean version (kim bob), as that is not raw.

Edited July 6, 2011 by MithLuin

[faithcecelia]

[quote name='Debra Little' timestamp='1309922364' post='2263482']
went til Lent honey. you will be having fish almost every meal. but seriously i think you could
have a talk with the prioress and tell her your feelings before you enter. they understand
personal convictions.
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Thats what I did in my former community, but I have made a concious decision to eat what I am given this time. I may find, though, that I need to ask for patience while I adjust to eating it.

[faithcecelia]

[quote name='MithLuin' timestamp='1309924189' post='2263495']
Fish and chips! You can eat the potatoes and just nibble at the fish (to start with).

Salmon can be lovely with cucumbers. It's also easy to tell when it's cooked, because it turns light pink.

Recipes: [url="http://kidscooking.about.com/od/dinnerrecipes/r/salmoncucsalsa.htm"]Salmon in skillet + cucumber salsa[/url]
[url="http://www.cooks.com/rec/view/0,1717,159164-246200,00.html"]Broiled Salmon + Dill Cucumber sauce[/url]
Or an alternative: [url="http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Grilled-Salmon-I/Detail.aspx"]Grilled salmon with soy sauce/brown sugar marinade[/url]

Tuna steaks are also good.

If you want, you can try sushi...it's quite good, but I imagine that's not where most people start with eating fish! But if you do try sushi, you might want to try things called 'tempura' as that is cooked, not raw. Or you can try the korean version (kim bob), as that is not raw.
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Thanks for these.

Strangely, I had wondered about sushi! I eat quite a lot of veggie sushi anyway and figured it could be an easy way to add in a tiny bit of fish at first (eaten first to get rid of it!) then increase.

[MissScripture]

[quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1309913450' post='2263422']
last Christmas, an elderly lady at my parish handed me a frozen bag of fish her family caught and wished me a Merry Christmas. This bag-o-fish was my Christmas gift. I'm not much of a fish eater, so i figured I'd give it to my cat... trouble is, i forgot all about the bag-o-fish. I set it down in my room, and forgot about it all day. Next time i visited my room, i was greeting by the putrid smell of thawing fish and there was blood all over the floor ...









i realize this story has nothing to do with the intent of this thread
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I remember that story! SO nasty!

[quote name='vee8' timestamp='1309914076' post='2263430']
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[quote name='faithcecelia' timestamp='1309929860' post='2263516']
Thats what I did in my former community, but I have made a concious decision to eat what I am given this time. I may find, though, that I need to ask for patience while I adjust to eating it.
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I think if you're making an honest effort, and you've told them in advance that you formerly didn't eat fish, they'll probably have patience with you. If you just start gagging when you try to eat it, they may wonder about you.

The only fish I eat are fish sticks (and I love them! Fish sticks and barbeque sauce! ) so I'm not much help. I used to eat fish that we had caught in the lake, but I am ALWAYS the person who gets all the bones in my pieces and so I've just stopped trying to eat it, because I can't enjoy it anyway. I think I burn more calories picking out the bones that I gain from eating the fish. I'm a lazy eater, if there's too much work involved I just won't eat it.

On the other hand, you may find that when you join the convent, you have no trouble at all eating what is set in front of you. That's what happened with my sister, anyway. She used to be a super-picky eater (and ironically, I used to eat anything. Total reversal!). She used to gag on lettuce, now she eats salads every day. She LOVES seafood, now, and it used to be a major ordeal to try to get her to eat anything that remotely resembled fish (unless it was caught in our lake). So, who knows. You could just find the grace to eat it.

[vee]

IMO trying to enter Carmel is like trying to join the Green Berets, the SAS, or something similar in that [b]personal convictions dont matter. [/b]

As St John of the Cross states in his counsels
"5. To practice the third counsel, which concerns the practice of virtue, you should be constant in your religious observance and in obedience without any concern for the world, but only for God. In order to achieve this and avoid being deceived, you should never set your eyes on the satisfaction or dissatisfaction of the work at hand as a motive for doing it or failing to do it, but on doing it for God. [b]Thus you must undertake all things, agreeable or disagreeable, for the sole purpose of pleasing God through them. [/b]

6. To do this with fortitude and constancy and acquire the virtues quickly,[b] you should take care always to be inclined to the difficult more than to the easy, to the rugged more than to the soft, to the hard and distasteful in a work more than to its delightful and pleasant aspects; and do not go about choosing what is less a cross, for the cross is a light burden[/b] [Mt. 11:30]. The heavier a burden is, the lighter it becomes when borne for Christ. You should try, too, by taking the lowest place always, that in things bringing comfort to your brothers in religion they be preferred to you. This you should do wholeheartedly, for it is the way to becoming greater in spiritual things, as God tells us in his Gospel:

and
You ought to suffer these mortifications and annoyances with inner patience, being silent for love of God and understanding that you did not enter the religious life for any other reason than for others to work you in this way, and so you become worthy of heaven. If this was not your reason for entering the religious state, you should not have done so, but should have remained in the world to seek your comfort, honor, reputation, and ease. "

Or St John of the Cross sums it up well with this "“Beloved, all that is harsh and difficult I want for myself, and all that is gentle and sweet for thee” That is is the only personal conviction that matters in Carmel.

[TeresaBenedicta]

I dislike fish with a great passion.

Alas.

[dominicansoul]

[quote name='MissScripture' timestamp='1309967692' post='2263633']
The only fish I eat are fish sticks (and I love them! Fish sticks and barbeque sauce! ) [/quote]

Fish stix are my favorite type of fish to eat

[quote]On the other hand, you may find that when you join the convent, you have no trouble at all eating what is set in front of you. That's what happened with my sister, anyway. She used to be a super-picky eater (and ironically, I used to eat anything. Total reversal!). She used to gag on lettuce, now she eats salads every day. She LOVES seafood, now, and it used to be a major ordeal to try to get her to eat anything that remotely resembled fish (unless it was caught in our lake). So, who knows. You could just find the grace to eat it.
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it's cos OP superiors beat you into submission

[MissScripture]

[quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1309976105' post='2263689']
Fish stix are my favorite type of fish to eat



it's cos OP superiors beat you into submission
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Never seemed to work with her when I used to try to do it. I wonder if she still remembers the time I tried to make her eat kiwi...

[dominicansoul]

[quote name='vee8' timestamp='1309968828' post='2263638']
IMO trying to enter Carmel is like trying to join the Green Berets, the SAS, or something similar in that [b]personal convictions dont matter. [/b]

As St John of the Cross states in his counsels
"5. To practice the third counsel, which concerns the practice of virtue, you should be constant in your religious observance and in obedience without any concern for the world, but only for God. In order to achieve this and avoid being deceived, you should never set your eyes on the satisfaction or dissatisfaction of the work at hand as a motive for doing it or failing to do it, but on doing it for God. [b]Thus you must undertake all things, agreeable or disagreeable, for the sole purpose of pleasing God through them. [/b]

6. To do this with fortitude and constancy and acquire the virtues quickly,[b] you should take care always to be inclined to the difficult more than to the easy, to the rugged more than to the soft, to the hard and distasteful in a work more than to its delightful and pleasant aspects; and do not go about choosing what is less a cross, for the cross is a light burden[/b] [Mt. 11:30]. The heavier a burden is, the lighter it becomes when borne for Christ. You should try, too, by taking the lowest place always, that in things bringing comfort to your brothers in religion they be preferred to you. This you should do wholeheartedly, for it is the way to becoming greater in spiritual things, as God tells us in his Gospel:

and
You ought to suffer these mortifications and annoyances with inner patience, being silent for love of God and understanding that you did not enter the religious life for any other reason than for others to work you in this way, and so you become worthy of heaven. If this was not your reason for entering the religious state, you should not have done so, but should have remained in the world to seek your comfort, honor, reputation, and ease. "

Or St John of the Cross sums it up well with this "“Beloved, all that is harsh and difficult I want for myself, and all that is gentle and sweet for thee” That is is the only personal conviction that matters in Carmel.
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IMO, entering Carmel is like entering a nut farm


I'm so glad they lock you guys up!

















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[vee]

[quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1309978194' post='2263709']
IMO, entering Carmel is like entering a nut farm


I'm so glad they lock you guys up!

















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