Cam42 Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 [quote name='fides' Jack' timestamp='1309285725' post='2259769'] [...] If he had used the English translation, "Active Participation" and "Actual Participation" (I think that's right - someone correct me if I'm wrong), then part of the meaning is lost, because the direct translation doesn't really capture the theological implications of the term in question. [...] [/quote] participatio activa = active participation (external) participatio actuosa = active participation (internal and external) There is no corresponding English translation, which is why there has been so much confusion about the true meaning of participatio actuosa. When it is translated, the assumption goes to the lowest common denominator (which is activa). It just isn't always the case. Another way to look at it is this.... participatio activa = actively participating by doing.... participatio actuosa = full, concious and active participation. Sometimes when dealing with the Church, there just is no better way or more accurate way to convey the meaning without staying with the Latin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 [quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1309286944' post='2259787'] That was incredibly uncharitable and downright mean....even if you are the owner of the site. I rarely say anything here to further my own cause or to show an aire of arrogance. All I say is for the betterment of the Church, even if some people here don't agree... [/quote] Does it help to know that I was laughing as I typed it? If not, I'm sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1309287468' post='2259797'] Does it help to know that I was laughing as I typed it? If not, I'm sorry. [/quote] No it doesn't help... and thank you for apologizing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faithcecelia Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 The first sort of preceeds Mass, as well as every time I come into the presence of the Blessed Sacrament, and that is when I look to the Tabernacle (unless its Adoration, of course) and genuflect and silently pray 'My Lord and my God'. I was stunned at how that grew more and more important to me, and became a stronger and stronger feeling while I was in Carmel, and is a big part of what I am looking forward to when I return, just knowing that each time I enter choir I am coming before my God and acknowledging Him, silently pouring out my love. The other is, as others have said, 'Lord, I am not worthy to recieve you, but only say the word and I shall be healed'. It choakes me every time, here I am, a sinner in the midst of a church full of sinners, and there is Christ ready and waiting for us to take Him into ourselves - in the form of the Eucharist and also in the form of the Spirit entering our hearts and minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 I love the way that Jesus gives Himself so completely to us that we can offer Him to the Father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I love how the beginning of the Gospel reading, we say "Glory to You, O Lord," reminding us that the Scriptures are the life of the Son, inspired by the Holy Spirit, giving glory to the Father. And then when we make the crosses on our forehead, lips, and heart to keep the Word of God on our mind, on our lips, and in our hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debra Little Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1309286306' post='2259775'] You're asking [b]Cam[/b] how to do this!? Excuse me... [size="5"]HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!![/size] [/quote] hahahah to youi too. lol. actually i was very serious. a good day to all my Phat brothers and sisters. In Jesus and Mary, Deb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 [quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1309286944' post='2259787'] That was incredibly uncharitable and downright mean....even if you are the owner of the site. I rarely say anything here to further my own cause or to show an aire of arrogance. All I say is for the betterment of the Church, even if some people here don't agree... [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 [quote name='franciscanheart' timestamp='1309368435' post='2260300'] [/quote] What's that look for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 [quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1309369980' post='2260317'] What's that look for? [/quote] Probably because she is wondering how you could post that with a straight face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 As the great King Arthur of Camelot once said, you make me sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeresaBenedicta Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' timestamp='1309392104' post='2260529'] As the great King Arthur of Camelot once said, you make me sad. [/quote] Maximus compels me to post right after you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides quarens intellectum Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Aside from the obvious, I love the three-year lectionary. I love the excitement of a new year approaching as we get close to Advent. I love when baptisms are held during Mass. I love the RCIA process that builds up to the Easter Vigil. I love the entrance and communion antiphons when there's no hymn (like daily Mass). I love, "through Him, with Him, and in Him..." I love when a priest takes time for a longer elevation of the Host. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' timestamp='1309392104' post='2260529'] As the great King Arthur of Camelot once said, you make me sad. [/quote] I often make myself sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I personally love the Prayer of the Faithful... I love praying for the pope, the bishops, our parish, the poor by name. Whenever someone dies in the parish their name is mentioned in that week's P.o.t.F. and it alerts us that their is a family that needs help and comforting (we're a big parish and everybody doesn't know everybody else) and that a soul needs prayer. It makes the big clunky parish seem more like a family. It's amesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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