Great Bit Of Evangilizing Going On Here

[dUSt]

[quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1309200873' post='2259131']
And it shouldn't just be people, it should be a priest (or deacon). A lay minister cannot give viaticum.
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[quote]"A Priest or Deacon, [b]or an extraordinary minister[/b] who takes the Most Holy Eucharist when an ordained minister is absent or impeded in order to administer it as Communion for a sick person, should go insofar as possible directly from the place where the Sacrament is reserved to the sick person’s home, leaving aside any profane business so that any danger of profanation may be avoided and the greatest reverence for the Body of Christ may be ensured. Furthermore the Rite for the administration of Communion to the sick, as prescribed in the Roman Ritual, is always to be used." (Redemptionis Sacramentum, n. 133)[/quote]

So, it is allowed, although, probably abused. I don't think "so the priest doesn't miss the Packers game" should be considered "impediment".

[Cam42]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1309205668' post='2259182']
Just as a point of clarification.... Is this procession from St. Paul to Minneapolis or vice versa? That would be a long haul. Or does it rotate from year to year? I'm just wondering if there's a reason to include both cities. If not, just say, "St. Paul." (Which I'm guessing is the location, right? )

And "pyx" is a great Scrabble word.
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I'm including both Cities, because that is the politically correct thing to do, right? It is the Archdiocese of St. Paul AND MINNEAPOLIS, if I remember correctly. I'm sorry that I haven't lived there in 10 years.

I suppose I could say just St. Paul, but then again, I would be alienating all of the people from the other parts of the Twin Cities (which is also a misnomer, too, right?) who come to process....

So, let's not split hairs....and I seriously hope that you don't misspell a word anytime soon, because I will be there to beat you down with a dictionary, O Super-sarcastic one.

[Cam42]

[quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1309205737' post='2259183']
So, it is allowed, although, probably abused. I don't think "so the priest doesn't miss the Packers game" should be considered "impediment".
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Thanks for supporting me on that one dUSt. I appreciate it. See, we do work well together.

[Papist]

I haven't seen this video, but I can get the gist based on posts. I personally don't see the point of hiding the Blessed Sacrament until you get into the center of the mall. I think it would work better if the Blessed Sacrament is exposed starting at the entrance of the mall. Then reverently walk[i.e. procession] to the destination. Now that leaves the dilemma of how the Blessed Sacrament gets transported to the entrance. What if the Blessed Sacrament originated 12 miles away.

Our Eucharistic Congress kicks off with an Eucharistic procession from the downtown parish to the Convention Center. It is amesome, by the way. But, there is no Eucharistic procession back. Makes me wonder what is the method of transporting the Blessed Sacrament from the Convention Center.

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Blessed_Sacrament_procession,_First_Annual_Southeastern_Eucharistic_Congress,_Charlotte,_North_Carolina_-_20050924-01.jpg[/img]


[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cQ2xhpZfenk/TI2AAVbuMHI/AAAAAAAAPTk/7Rd7pyidEV0/s1600/charlotte+2010+viii.JPG[/img]

[dUSt]

[quote]Can. 944 §1. When it can be done in the judgment of the diocesan bishop, a procession through the public streets is to be held as a public witness of veneration toward the Most Holy Eucharist, especially on the solemnity of the Body and Blood of Christ.

§2. It is for the diocesan bishop to establish regulations which provide for the participation in and the dignity of processions.[/quote]

I don't know. I'm torn. On one hand, I think what the Franciscan priest did was good, and the response to the exposed Blessed Sacrament was amazing. On the other hand, I don't think transporting Jesus in a duffle bag is displaying the proper respect and reverence.

I think what the diocese of NY and the CFR Franciscans did was more awesomer:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX5X2cXMh0o[/media]

[Papist]

I have mixed feelings too, which to me means that I should side on the caution of protecting the Blessed Sacrament.

[dUSt]

[quote]Although this cannot be done in some places, the tradition of holding eucharistic processions should not be allowed to be lost. Instead, new ways should be sought of holding them in today’s conditions... -Redemptionis Sacramentum [144.][/quote]
That's an interesting bit from Redemptionis Sacramentum. Makes me rethink it a little.

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1309205979' post='2259186']
I'm including both Cities, because that is the politically correct thing to do, right? It is the Archdiocese of St. Paul AND MINNEAPOLIS, if I remember correctly. I'm sorry that I haven't lived there in 10 years.

I suppose I could say just St. Paul, but then again, I would be alienating all of the people from the other parts of the Twin Cities (which is also a misnomer, too, right?) who come to process....

So, let's not split hairs....and I seriously hope that you don't misspell a word anytime soon, because I will be there to beat you down with a dictionary, O Super-sarcastic one.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.... Who peed in your Cheerios? First off, I posted about "pyx" being an amesome Scrabble word because it is. The reason *I* can remember what it's called is because of it's unusual spelling. I never said anything about misspelling it. I'm certainly not the best speller, so I'm not sure exactly *what* I'm being accused of being sarcastic about. Thess said he couldn't remember what it was called. Re.lax.

Secondly, Yes, M and SP are often referred to as the Twin Cities and I have no problem with that. I am certainly not an expert on the Eucharistic processions here-- I'm assuming you know much more on the subject. If the procession is in St. Paul, just say so. No one is alienated. If I say that the State Fair is in St. Paul (well, Falcon Heights), does that alienate the rest of the state? Sheesh. Honestly, I would be delighted if Mpls. had a reverent Eucharistic procession. I can't imagine it, but maybe you know something that I don't.

You owe me an apology.

[Cam42]

dUSt,

Do you think that the local Ordinary would have approved of that method using those means, based upon the canons you supplied? I don't think so.

[Cam42]

[quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1309207778' post='2259193']
That's an interesting bit from Redemptionis Sacramentum. Makes me rethink it a little.
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Yah, but I don't think transporting the Blessed Sacrament in duffle bag is what is envisioned here....even going by the so-called "spirit" of the document.

Seriously, I'm STILL defending the Blessed Sacrament?

[Cam42]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1309207835' post='2259194']
Whoa, whoa, whoa.... Who peed in your Cheerios? First off, I posted about "pyx" being an amesome Scrabble word because it is. The reason *I* can remember what it's called is because of it's unusual spelling. I never said anything about misspelling it. I'm certainly not the best speller, so I'm not sure exactly *what* I'm being accused of being sarcastic about. Thess said he couldn't remember what it was called. Re.lax.

Secondly, Yes, M and SP are often referred to as the Twin Cities and I have no problem with that. I am certainly not an expert on the Eucharistic processions here-- I'm assuming you know much more on the subject. If the procession is in St. Paul, just say so. No one is alienated. If I say that the State Fair is in St. Paul (well, Falcon Heights), does that alienate the rest of the state? Sheesh. Honestly, I would be delighted if Mpls. had a reverent Eucharistic procession. I can't imagine it, but maybe you know something that I don't.

You owe me an apology.
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Well, excuse me for coloring you sarcastic..Ms. TMI = Tevas in the Mail....

I wouldn't have ever thought you'd be sarcastic toward me....

So, apparently I'm sorry for thinking you to be sarcastic toward me.

[dUSt]

[quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1309208835' post='2259197']
dUSt,

Do you think that the local Ordinary would have approved of that method using those means, based upon the canons you supplied? I don't think so.
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Yet, we don't know. For all we know, the local Ordinary was in full support. It's not like it was an Adidas gym bag. After re-watching the video, it looks like the bag might be something made to carry vessels. It's all speculation though--I'd just like to give the priest the benefit of the doubt.

[thessalonian]

"In a pix. placed inside a leather pouch with a string on it placed next to the heart"

Maybe it was a leather duffle bag.. Just kidding. It would be nice if the Church made some appropriate carrier for the monstance, I agree. A duffle bag may not be the best. I doubt any disrespect was intended and the priest was sure reverent when he took it out.

[TeresaBenedicta]

[quote name='thessalonian' timestamp='1309209317' post='2259201']
"In a pix. placed inside a leather pouch with a string on it placed next to the heart"

Maybe it was a leather duffle bag.. Just kidding. It would be nice if the Church made some appropriate carrier for the monstance, I agree. A duffle bag may not be the best. I doubt any disrespect was intended and the priest was sure reverent when he took it out.
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A quick repose of the Blessed Sacrament to a pyx would've removed any question of scandal.

[Cam42]

[quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1309207778' post='2259193']


[quote]Although this cannot be done in some places, the tradition of holding eucharistic processions should not be allowed to be lost. Instead, new ways should be sought of holding them in today’s conditions... -Redemptionis Sacramentum [144.][/quote]

That's an interesting bit from Redemptionis Sacramentum. Makes me rethink it a little.
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I wonder if the civil authorities were contacted and their agreement sought in this instance? I bet not....not many "flash mobs" are. You left out that important part. Just keeping it real dUSt.



Redemptionis Sacramentum #143-144
[quote][143.]“Wherever it is possible in the judgement of the diocesan Bishop, a procession through the public streets should be held, especially on the Solemnity of the Body and Blood of Christ as a public witness of reverence for the Most Holy Sacrament”,[url="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccdds/documents/rc_con_ccdds_doc_20040423_redemptionis-sacramentum_en.html#_ftn242"][242][/url] for the “devout participation of the faithful in the eucharistic procession on the Solemnity of the Body and Blood of Christ is a grace from the Lord which yearly fills with joy those who take part in it”.[url="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccdds/documents/rc_con_ccdds_doc_20040423_redemptionis-sacramentum_en.html#_ftn243"][243][/url] [left][144.] Although this cannot be done in some places, the tradition of holding eucharistic processions should not be allowed to be lost. Instead, new ways should be sought of holding them in today’s conditions: for example, at shrines, or in public gardens if the civil authority agrees. [/left]
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