Cam42 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I cannot believe that I'm defending the sacrality of the Blessed Sacrament with regard to this right now.....oh my goodness (don't blasphemy)!!! Really? Really?? Really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqHM7z6ooMA[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9MoCkvj1iw[/media] I think that Father's explanation is wonderful and a great rendering of what a Catholic flash mob should be about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUHD-uDthIM[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLdCbr8PR5U[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 [quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1309200873' post='2259131'] In a pix. placed inside a leather pouch with a string on it placed next to the heart. And it shouldn't just be people, it should be a priest (or deacon). A lay minister cannot give viaticum. [/quote] So what is going on in so many parishes with lay ministers bringing the Eucharist to the sick is an abuse. Can you please show documentation for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organwerke Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 (edited) I am with Cam on this. And, if I don't recall wrong, in the past there was some sort of processions when the Eucaristy was brougth to the sick, or at least the priest was covered with an umbrella and the body of Christ's passage was accompanied by little bells or something similar...I am sad this is not used anymore. Edited June 27, 2011 by organwerke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 The above videos are much more appropriate and they are the traditional and accepted way of bringing Jesus to the Streets....and I notice the Blessed Sacrament isn't yanked from a duffle bag, not even one time. But, this way is too scary for the average Catholic, according to one poster above....I don't see anyone running away!!!! Even the biker dude... Meh...I stand by my assertion that the Franciscan priest was not showing proper reverence to the Blessed Sacrament by pulling It out of a duffle bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 [quote name='thessalonian' timestamp='1309202523' post='2259151'] So what is going on in so many parishes with lay ministers bringing the Eucharist to the sick is an abuse. Can you please show documentation for this? [/quote] Did I say it was an abuse? No. Please don't put words in my mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeresaBenedicta Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 [quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1309202211' post='2259145'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9MoCkvj1iw[/media] I think that Father's explanation is wonderful and a great rendering of what a Catholic flash mob should be about. [/quote] Fr. Lappe!! He baptized me four years ago. And started up the tradition of a Corpus Christi Procession at my parish. He's no longer here anymore, but we just had an amesome Procession yesterday- forty some altar boys, First Communicants throwing rose petals, incense, trumpeters, the whole works. It was beautiful. Concerning the original flash mob... I think I'm more with Cam on this one. A duffel bag? The least that could've been done was to repose the Blessed Sacrament into a pix and carried that way. The monstrance could be put in the duffel bag. Or they could have had a simple procession into the mall. Two servers with candles. I think the simplicity did wonders- it didn't necessarily need to be a full out procession... but, there's a better way of transporting the Blessed Sacrament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissScripture Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 [quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1309200873' post='2259131'] In a pix. placed inside a leather pouch with a string on it placed next to the heart. And it shouldn't just be people, it should be a priest (or deacon). A lay minister cannot give viaticum. [/quote] Isn't it only viaticum if the person is acutally dying, though, so it's part of the last rites? Frequently, when it's being taken to a nursing home, it is because those people cannot go to Mass, not because they are near death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 [quote name='MissScripture' timestamp='1309203506' post='2259166'] Isn't it only viaticum if the person is acutally dying, though, so it's part of the last rites? Frequently, when it's being taken to a nursing home, it is because those people cannot go to Mass, not because they are near death. [/quote] Viaticum may be administered to those with or without extreme unction (sacrament of the sick). Viaticum is a Latin word for "we, with whom are on our way." It is a preparation for death, but it is administered to all who are ill or close to death...so anyone who cannot receive Holy Communion because of ill health is able to receive viaticum, strictly speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 [quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1309201514' post='2259140'] Ever been in Rome for a Eucharistic Procession? Ever been in the Twin Cities for a Eucharistic Procession? Ever been to Des Moines for a Eucharistic Procession? I have. I have never been to a Eucharistic Procession which didn't have a good turn out...not once. And since there is nothing which says specifically "don't put God in a duffle bag....." that makes it ok? I don't buy it. [/quote] I am well aware of Eucharistic Processions Mr. Smarty pantaloons. The point here is that this was spontaneous. Not a call to a bunch a people in bulletens throughout the dicoese saying to show up at a procession down at the Cathedral on saturday. Not knocking that. Just pointing out the sponitenaity of this and the inspiring response of the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 [quote name='thessalonian' timestamp='1309204798' post='2259173'] I am well aware of Eucharistic Processions Mr. Smarty pantaloons. The point here is that this was spontaneous. Not a call to a bunch a people in bulletens throughout the dicoese saying to show up at a procession down at the Cathedral on saturday. Not knocking that. Just pointing out the sponitenaity of this and the inspiring response of the people. [/quote] And I am saying that carrying the Blessed Sacrament in a duffle bag is disrespectful to the Sacrament. At no other time in history would I be defending that statement. And to be honest, I can't believe I'm STILL defending it on phatmass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 [quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1309202727' post='2259154'] Did I say it was an abuse? No. Please don't put words in my mouth. [/quote] Excuse my confusion. "And it shouldn't just be people, it should be a priest (or deacon). " Either it is your opinion or you will provide documentation, which I would appreciate. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 i'm with Cam on this. We have suffered greatly from not having a proper respect and reverence to God in teh Blessed Sacrament for decades. As far as the people who take Holy Communion to the sick. I'm sorry, but isn't that why we have ordained ministers? What exactly are they doing if they don't have time to do this primary duty of their state? I would think all priests would be eager to fulfill this duty and hear confessions...lay people cannot hear the confessions of the sick... in my hometown parish, the Tabernacle is like Grand Central Station after Mass. Everybody and their uncles are up there taking hosts and putting him in napkins, pyxs and bags. No reverence at all. And who's keeping count of all the Hosts and who has Him? I fear what can be happening to Him. People in my parish are known to frequent curanderos. Who knows if they are really taking the Hosts to the sick... the whole thing makes me sad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 [quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1309201514' post='2259140'] Ever been in the Twin Cities for a Eucharistic Procession? [/quote] Just as a point of clarification.... Is this procession from St. Paul to Minneapolis or vice versa? That would be a long haul. Or does it rotate from year to year? I'm just wondering if there's a reason to include both cities. If not, just say, "St. Paul." (Which I'm guessing is the location, right? ) And "pyx" is a great Scrabble word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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