IgnatiusofLoyola Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1309014860' post='2258600'] 1. Catholics should support threat of violence in redistributing wealth. 2. Only criminals should be protected from execution by the State. [/quote] I expected you to suggest a fire hose. That's what they use at the zoo in emergencies when the animals get violent with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 [quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' timestamp='1309015039' post='2258601'] I expected you to suggest a fire hose. That's what they use at the zoo in emergencies when the animals get violent with each other. [/quote] I worked at the zoo for a while. Night guard. It was amesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 (edited) Unfortunately, what used to work in the past (which usually involved a good right cross to the ol' schnozzola) would probably land you in jail. [quote name='Mr.CatholicCat' timestamp='1308949825' post='2258250'] Because for nearly three to four years they have actively stalked me attempting to slander, lie, and harass me. They do so under the guise that its the "catholic" thing to do. When their approached with evidence to the contrary ([i]both to their claims and activity[/i]), approached by good catholics disgusted by their behavior, or even when the seriousness of their behavior is brought up they doge it as being a "good catholic". Oddly... there are some catholics who think this sort of behavior is being a good catholic.I've thought about it. But they have been following me. However, they haven't come to phatmass yet. Apart of the only reason I'm still here. Dust has explained that he finds this kind of behavior deplorable and won't tolerate it.I assume there are some terrible atheists and agnostics in the world. But honestly... despite my disagreements or problems with other atheists or agnostics... we all still get along. Very well in fact. Also the few times that their behavior has been questionable, other atheists and agnostics tend to be quick to call them out on it. I know my atheist friends in this situation have been immune to the slander, even those who don't particularly like me, because it doesn't make sense and there is a lack of evidence. So this may bother you but... I've never met a despicable atheist yet. Even when I was a Catholic. Merely because someone disagrees with you or is different, doesn't make them dumber. I can't believe I have to tell a phatmass church scholar this. [/quote] Well, it seems like you've won half the battle if you have others sticking up for you. However, I don't know what the context of this harassment is (and it is harassment, according to what you say). I see you mention your time as a Catholic and an atheist - what are you now? The reason I ask is to find out whether the harassment is over aggressive attemmpts to egt you back in Church. Additionally, in what environment is this happening? School, work, church? There are authorities there that you could report the problem to - just document the harassment and keep the Catholics who stick up for you on your side. Edited June 25, 2011 by Norseman82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnatiusofLoyola Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1309018364' post='2258619'] I worked at the zoo for a while. Night guard. It was amesome. [/quote] I envy you--I bet it WAS amesome and that you have some great stories. Edited June 25, 2011 by IgnatiusofLoyola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1309018364' post='2258619'] I worked at the zoo for a while. Night guard. It was amesome. [/quote] [quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' timestamp='1309018672' post='2258621'] I envy you--I bet it WAS amesome and that you have some great stories. [/quote] I would totally do that job! Although, I don't know if I could work nights long term. I did it for a week last summer, and it was a lot of fun, but longer than a week might have been too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Cat Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 (edited) [quote name='jaime (the artist formerly known as hot stuff)' timestamp='1309014293' post='2258597']Mr CatholicCat proving you to be insincere hardly takes any intelligence.[/quote]Wow... you just keep digging a deeper hole for yourself... While I can be very sarcastic at times, I am quite sincere. But its a typical upset theist who starts insulting intelligence because they haven't gotten their way. [quote name='jaime (the artist formerly known as hot stuff)' timestamp='1309014293' post='2258597']It just takes the ability to copy and paste where you contradict yourself.[/quote]Please do so, privately since it's not relevant to this thread. Because I find that notion absurd... [quote name='jaime (the artist formerly known as hot stuff)' timestamp='1309014293' post='2258597']But since you used to be Catholic and are now an atheist, and you are accusing myself and others of being unCatholic, then do me a favor.[/quote]When have I accused you of being uncatholic or anyone else on phatmass? I explicitly stated it is NOT anyone on phatmass. Are you that dense? [quote name='jaime (the artist formerly known as hot stuff)' timestamp='1309014293' post='2258597']Why don't you define how you think a Catholic should behave? Also, even though you are an atheist, should you be held to a similar standard? Do tell Mr Kitty, define the behavior you think is "Catholic." My guess is that you have no real idea. you just don't like being proven wrong.[/quote]There is a student's quotation that I keep close to my heart, even when I am somewhat certain of something, "[i][b]but I have often been wrong before.[/b][/i]" We are all students and teachers in life. I am a philosophical skeptic, [u]I in fact enjoy being shown wrong[/u]. But the problem that frequently happens is people state their opinion or belief without any warranting, thus its not really showing me wrong or correcting me... As I have explained to others... the higher on this chart you go the better chance you have of changing my mind. ([i]As a personal note: I find this a lot here on phatmass, responding to tone, or below. Such as you're criticisms now.[/i]) [center][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Graham%27s_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement.jpg[/img][/center] I have often been shown wrong before or at least corrected with more appropriate information. My behavior is not beyond reproach... humans will be humans, it's the way we roll. We have dark and we have light. That doesn't bother me... How do I behave. Normally "tit for tat" with a lot of "tongue and cheek". You should read about it... But criminal harassment and slander, persistently done over the course of three to four years, without any evidence and in fact there being evidence to the contrary, does in fact bother me... How should a Catholic behave? You are a "phatmass church scholar" and you don't know the teachings or morals of you're faith? Let's start with the church's teachings on gossip, slander, and deception... Are Catholics supposed to do that? Is it defensible? Edited June 25, 2011 by Mr.CatholicCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Cat Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Norseman82' timestamp='1309018529' post='2258620']Well, it seems like you've won half the battle if you have others sticking up for you. However, I don't know what the context of this harassment is (and it is harassment, according to what you say). I see you mention your time as a Catholic and an atheist - what are you now? The reason I ask is to find out whether the harassment is over aggressive attemmpts to egt you back in Church. Additionally, in what environment is this happening? School, work, church? There are authorities there that you could report the problem to - just document the harassment and keep the Catholics who stick up for you on your side.[/quote]There was a priest involved in it... we reported it to his superiors. He was transferred to Arizona... It has gotten a lot better... however there is still a small pocket of people who simply haven't given up. The person who pushes this the hardest is in fact mentally ill and has has difficulties with truth telling before. But this doesn't seem to deter the people involved. Right now I would classify as an agnostic atheist. But the word that suits me the best when coming to religion and faith is "[i]moot[/i]". Edited June 25, 2011 by Mr.CatholicCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 As this thread has essentially devolved into MORE attacks (knock it off, y'all), I'm closing it. If you wish to offer MCC advice, please do so via private message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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