Latin Quietism

[Debra Little]

Does anyone understand what Latin Quietism is? I was reading a book that mentioned it and it came
about in the 16th or 17 century. What I read when I googled seemed okay but apparently this has
been condemned by the Church?.

[Totus Tuus]

I feel like I learned about that at some point but I can't remember what it is. Could you post the definition so that we don't have to research it to answer your question?

[Nihil Obstat]

Someone called Era Might a Quietist once. Don't remember who it was.

Newadvent:


Quietism (Latin quies, quietus, passivity) in the broadest sense is the doctrine which declares that man's highest perfection consists in a sort of psychical self-annihilation and a consequent absorption of the soul into the Divine Essence even during the present life. In the state of "quietude" the mind is wholly inactive; it no longer thinks or wills on its own account, but remains passive while God acts within it. Quietism is thus generally speaking a sort of false or exaggerated mysticism, which under the guise of the loftiest spirituality contains erroneous notions which, if consistently followed, would prove fatal to morality. It is fostered by Pantheism and similar theories, and it involves peculiar notions concerning the Divine cooperation in human acts. In a narrower sense Quietism designates the mystical element in the teaching of various sects which have sprung up within the Church, only to be cast out as heretical. In some of these the Quietistic teaching has been the conspicuous error, in others it has been a mere corollary of more fundamental erroneous doctrine. Quietism finally, in the strictest acceptation of the term, is the doctrine put forth and defended in the seventeenth century by Molinos and Petrucci. Out of their teaching developed the less radical form known as Semiquietism, whose principle advocates were Fénelon and Madame Guyon. All these varieties of Quietism insist with more or less emphasis on interior passivity as the essential condition of perfection; and all have been proscribed in very explicit terms by the Church.

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[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1308865761' post='2257809']
Someone called Era Might a Quietist once. Don't remember who it was.

Newadvent:


Quietism (Latin quies, quietus, passivity) in the broadest sense is the doctrine which declares that man's highest perfection consists in a sort of psychical self-annihilation and a consequent absorption of the soul into the Divine Essence even during the present life. In the state of "quietude" the mind is wholly inactive; it no longer thinks or wills on its own account, but remains passive while God acts within it. Quietism is thus generally speaking a sort of false or exaggerated mysticism, which under the guise of the loftiest spirituality contains erroneous notions which, if consistently followed, would prove fatal to morality. It is fostered by Pantheism and similar theories, and it involves peculiar notions concerning the Divine cooperation in human acts. In a narrower sense Quietism designates the mystical element in the teaching of various sects which have sprung up within the Church, only to be cast out as heretical. In some of these the Quietistic teaching has been the conspicuous error, in others it has been a mere corollary of more fundamental erroneous doctrine. Quietism finally, in the strictest acceptation of the term, is the doctrine put forth and defended in the seventeenth century by Molinos and Petrucci. Out of their teaching developed the less radical form known as Semiquietism, whose principle advocates were Fénelon and Madame Guyon. All these varieties of Quietism insist with more or less emphasis on interior passivity as the essential condition of perfection; and all have been proscribed in very explicit terms by the Church.
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[b]Ipso Facto your Quietism and all have been proscribed[/b]

[Nihil Obstat]

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[b]Ipso Facto your Quietism and all have been proscribed[/b]
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Gentlemen. All your base are belong to us. You have no chance to survive make your time.

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Gentlemen. All your base are belong to us. You have no chance to survive make your time.
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Take off every 'ZIG'

[Nihil Obstat]

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Take off every 'ZIG'
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[font="Arial Black"][size="7"]YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DOING![/size][/font]

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[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1308867240' post='2257828']
Gentlemen. All your base are belong to us. You have no chance to survive make your time.
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[font="Arial Black"][size="7"]YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DOING![/size][/font]
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Does anyone?

[Nihil Obstat]

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Does anyone?
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Everyone but the quietists, I bet.

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Que. - why did the Quietism cross the road?



Ans. - not to get to the other side

[mortify]

I'll simply add it's common among many Easter spiritualities.

[Debra Little]

quote name='Totus Tuus' timestamp='1308865099' post='2257806']
I feel like I learned about that at some point but I can't remember what it is. Could you post the definition so that we don't have to research it to answer your question?
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[b]qui·et·ism[/b]
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Edited June 24, 2011 by Debra Little

[Debra Little]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1308865761' post='2257809']
Someone called Era Might a Quietist once. Don't remember who it was.

Newadvent:


Quietism (Latin quies, quietus, passivity) in the broadest sense is the doctrine which declares that man's highest perfection consists in a sort of psychical self-annihilation and a consequent absorption of the soul into the Divine Essence even during the present life. In the state of "quietude" the mind is wholly inactive; it no longer thinks or wills on its own account, but remains passive while God acts within it. Quietism is thus generally speaking a sort of false or exaggerated mysticism, which under the guise of the loftiest spirituality contains erroneous notions which, if consistently followed, would prove fatal to morality. It is fostered by Pantheism and similar theories, and it involves peculiar notions concerning the Divine cooperation in human acts. In a narrower sense Quietism designates the mystical element in the teaching of various sects which have sprung up within the Church, only to be cast out as heretical. In some of these the Quietistic teaching has been the conspicuous error, in others it has been a mere corollary of more fundamental erroneous doctrine. Quietism finally, in the strictest acceptation of the term, is the doctrine put forth and defended in the seventeenth century by Molinos and Petrucci. Out of their teaching developed the less radical form known as Semiquietism, whose principle advocates were Fénelon and Madame Guyon. All these varieties of Quietism insist with more or less emphasis on interior passivity as the essential condition of perfection; and all have been proscribed in very explicit terms by the Church.
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Okay then this is something that is to be avoided at all costs. It is a danger to souls.
From what I read when I googled, they mentioned St. Teresa of Avila and St. John of the Cross in
the same article. This is sort of offensive then. I don't think of these saints as promoting an
erroneous doctrine.

Thank You for the explanation.

[Debra Little]

[quote name='mortify' timestamp='1308874287' post='2257884']
I'll simply add it's common among many Easter spiritualities.
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Okay, very dangerous stuff then.