Sarah147 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) Hello, I hope it's okay to make this poll. This is a PRIVATE poll, so no names will be shown. I'm wondering how bad p.ants on a woman are to modesty. Can y'all post or vote if p.ants on women are really a problem to men? I've read things in religion books, and it always seemed to be a source of temptation to men. The Duggers said they wear skirts because men have enough trouble guarding their eyes and thoughts. I will be re-thinking my clothes after this, and I hope the same for other women. God bless you. Edited June 13, 2011 by JoyfulLife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 One of the few keen things that teenage boys are equipped with are excellent imaginations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Cat Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) Respectfully, no and none. [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1308000927' post='2253333']One of the few keen things that teenage boys are equipped with are excellent imaginations.[/quote]Argumentative, but I suppose I would want to argue what "[i]excellent[/i]" means. But I think I understand what you're eluding at, and I think I may agree. Edited June 13, 2011 by Mr.CatholicCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJon16 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1308000927' post='2253333'] One of the few keen things that teenage boys are equipped with are excellent imaginations. [/quote] hahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenciledOne Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 This is sorta silly.....but I had fun answering. : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God the Father Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 someone else's fashion is their domain, if it causes a problem for me, it's my problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totus Tuus Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) I personally feel that the, "I should wear shirts that are two fingers below the collar bone, such and such should only show up to 3 inches when I bend over, shorts should pass my fingertips.... on and on" approaches to modesty are dangerous. I'm not a guy, but I feel that imposing those guidelines on ourselves 1) does not acknowledge the fact that all men are different (what is tempting to one may not be to another. Some men are turned on by women in Burkas.), and 2) does not acknowledge that all women are different (what is modest on me might not be modest on someone with a different body type. I know we can exhaust the modesty issue to death, and that's not what I'm trying to do. What I am trying to contribute is that speaking of modesty in a "how much/little can/should be covered" type of way leaves out a whole plethora of other things that should be taken into consideration and flirts both with scruples and skankiness at the same time, depending on which way you utilize the "rules" that people (*cough*certainmodestybookauthors*cough*) have put forth. Edited June 13, 2011 by Totus Tuus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudreyGrace Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 [quote name='Totus Tuus' timestamp='1308005605' post='2253356'] I personally feel that the, "I should wear shirts that are two fingers below the collar bone, such and such should only show up to 3 inches when I bend over, shorts should pass my fingertips.... on and on" approaches to modesty are dangerous. I'm not a guy, but I feel that imposing those guidelines on ourselves 1) does not acknowledge the fact that all men are different (what is tempting to one may not be to another. Some men are turned on by women in Burkas.), and 2) does not acknowledge that all women are different (what is modest on me might not be modest on someone with a different body type. I know we can exhaust the modesty issue to death, and that's not what I'm trying to do. What I am trying to contribute is that speaking of modesty in a "how much/little can/should be covered" type of way leaves out a whole plethora of other things that should be taken into consideration and flirts both with scruples and skankiness at the same time, depending on which way you utilize the "rules" that people (*cough*certainmodestybookauthors*cough*) have put forth. [/quote] like times a thousand! Someone once told me that modesty isn't a line drawn on your body, it's a line drawn on your heart. I think this speaks volumes because like you said, body types are different. Modesty isn't about "what can't I show?" it's about "what should I hold onto with dignity for myself and others?" That being said, while us girls do need to focus on dressing modestly to 1)show them love and 2)prevent them from sinning, I also think the men out there need to train themselves more. I'm sick and tired of the "well she's baring all so I can stare, I'm a dude" excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totus Tuus Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 [quote name='AudreyGrace' timestamp='1308006533' post='2253364'] I'm sick and tired of the "well she's baring all so I can stare, I'm a dude" excuse. [/quote] Agreed. Normally those are the guys that will stare even if you're wearing (LOOSE!) jeans and a t-shirt, too. haha. We do have to do our part, but I'm never, ever going to agree to walk around in clothes that don't flatter me and make me look *gasp!* attractive by accentuating the curves I have. Am I going to flaunt them? No. Am I going to present them in an attractive way? Heck yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides' Jack Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 [quote name='AudreyGrace' timestamp='1308006533' post='2253364'] like times a thousand! Someone once told me that modesty isn't a line drawn on your body, it's a line drawn on your heart. I think this speaks volumes because like you said, body types are different. Modesty isn't about "what can't I show?" it's about "what should I hold onto with dignity for myself and others?" That being said, while us girls do need to focus on dressing modestly to 1)show them love and 2)prevent them from sinning, I also think the men out there need to train themselves more. I'm sick and tired of the "well she's baring all so I can stare, I'm a dude" excuse. [/quote] I like to think of modesty not as a "line drawn" at all, but as a more holy expression of oneself. I dress modestly for my wife (strange hearing about it from the other side, isn't it?), and I'm never going to dress like I did before again. At this point, for me to wear short pantaloonies or a short-sleeved shirt would be sinful; since I know God is calling me to more than that, to ignore His call would be sinful. I'm sure the same would apply to women who are past the stage of using the "I'm sick and tired of the 'well she's baring all so I can stare, I'm a dude' excuse" excuse, and who dress modestly regardless of whether or not the clothes they are wearing are flattering. No offense, ladies. I wholeheartedly agree that men are pigs and need to train themselves more. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 [quote name='fides' Jack' timestamp='1308020192' post='2253433']short pantaloonies [/quote] sorry, after i got to this point, i totally forgot what you were saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides' Jack Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 [quote name='Totus Tuus' timestamp='1308012576' post='2253380'] Am I going to flaunt them? No. Am I going to present them in an attractive way? Heck yes. [/quote] I thought that's exactly what flaunting is - presenting in an attractive way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenciledOne Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Just a quick word on 'guys need to discipline themselves more' generalizations, I don't entirely disagree though here is my partial disagreement. Psychologically men are geared for a more physical attraction, while this may be appear to be a flaw to some it is entirely natural. Read some [u]Love and Responsibility[/u] and JPII can clear that up for you and how it should be well-ordered. The problem is the society and conditioning that men receive through the media and their families, since speaking from my own position my dad only gave me one line of advice which was to 'wear protection'....so with that said how about we focus on the excess rather than telling the guys they need to shape up, because they need a little more then being criticized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 [quote name='ThePenciledOne' timestamp='1308023318' post='2253467'] Just a quick word on 'guys need to discipline themselves more' generalizations, I don't entirely disagree though here is my partial disagreement. Psychologically men are geared for a more physical attraction, while this may be appear to be a flaw to some it is entirely natural. Read some [u]Love and Responsibility[/u] and JPII can clear that up for you and how it should be well-ordered. The problem is the society and conditioning that men receive through the media and their families, since speaking from my own position my dad only gave me one line of advice which was to 'wear protection'....so with that said how about we focus on the excess rather than telling the guys they need to shape up, because they need a little more then being criticized. [/quote] Hey that's the advice my dad gave too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenciledOne Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 [quote name='Amppax' timestamp='1308023503' post='2253469'] Hey that's the advice my dad gave too [/quote] Funny thing is that the comment itself is so distorted its sick....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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