Papist Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1308771622' post='2257332'] Y'know, I've noticed something interesting. Most people don't mind talking about modesty and appropriateness in clothing in general terms. Everyone agrees that it's an issue to discuss, etc.. However, the second anyone mentions any kind of specific, concrete example, that's where the major disagreements begin. Nobody minds "everybody should dress modestly", but the moment Cam says, for instance, "Women, if they wear pantaloons, should never wear jeans to Church. Some nice slacks that are not too tight can be fine", some people just flip out. Not here necessarily, although I won't say it doesn't happen here. People, I think, don't mind it being said that they (the general 'they') should be modest. What they don't like is any implication, no matter how slight, that maybe they (now the personal 'they') actually have to change something to be modest, or more modest, or more appropriately dressed for Mass. We want [i]other people[/i] to have to change. The clothes [i]I[/i] wear are just fine, tyvm; it's other people that need to do a better job. It's not a conscious thing, I'm sure, but it's there. That is what I'm seeing. It's a problem though; the same problem most of the rest of the world has. We want to point at somebody else, because if other people are worse than us, then we're not so bad after all. Except we're all bad. We all need to change. No matter how bad other people are, we still need to be better. Interesting thought. [/quote] Very good observation. Reminds me of my sister-in-law that agrees with me on my view of modesty, yet she[and the father, my brother] allows their daughter to dress like a prostitute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 [quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1308671988' post='2256819'] the bottom line is, how many of us make the effort to give God our best? I think most of the time, we're just lazy, and we'll throw on whatever is comfortable for us. I think we should take the time to dress up for the Sacred Banquet which the King has invited us to. This is something i try to instill in teh teens in my catechism classes. I tell them to stop looking like they just woke up, rolled out of bed, and came to church. lol. [/quote] I know this is often the case for me. Like this morning. I got up later than usual (slept in until 7.45!). Mass is at 9.00. I was sorely tempted to just throw on some khaki trousers because I knew where they were and I didn't want to put on tights to wear a skirt (it's chilly here today. English summer). However, I knew that if I did that, I wouldn't be giving God my best, just because of my laziness. Now if only my attitude had been a bit better, too. [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1308760298' post='2257282'] to be honest, it is incredibly hard for many moms (myself included) to find modest tops because either of: pregnancy (umm, women tend to get a bit busty during pregnancy), post-pregnancy (nursing), and toddler age (grabby hands). oh well. i do what i can, and that's all i can do. [/quote] Yep. Charlotte has a great habit of putting her hand down my shirt and saying "milk!" when she wants to nurse. I try to wear things that facilitate breastfeeding without showing much skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 I support breastfeeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 [quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1308772909' post='2257339'] I'm standing next to the altar with my hands folded...but sometimes, I dress like this.... [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/camilam42/Church/IMG_4720.jpg[/IMG] [/quote] I love it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Just got back from a youth conference, many of which Life Teen helps run (though not those on campus where we went). If you removed all of the teens, it could have been anywhere traditional. Altar servers were in cassocks and surplices. Exposition and Benediction were done exactly as in the rubrics. Latin was used, as were many traditional hymns such as O Come All Ye Faithful. They never said anything about the charismatic gifts and let the Spirit move where it would. The focus of the talks were on love as an act of the will not feelings, conversion, the Mass, and the Sacraments. About the only thing that would have driven traditionalists mad was the praise and worship during adoration. One girl had her broken ankle healed, one of our teens was convicted to go to confession having never been before, and all of our teens came out of the conference with a deeper love of Jesus. Our Masses were presided by Bishop John Barres of Allentown, PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) How about this one... [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/camilam42/Church/15301_1369902721339_1044869211_1108034_7708710_n.jpg[/img] (prayers at the foot of the altar) or maybe Incensation before the Introit [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/camilam42/Church/15301_1369903081348_1044869211_1108042_1455136_n-1.jpg[/img] Edited June 28, 2011 by Cam42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Jealous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Just got back from a youth conference, many of which Life Teen helps run (though not those on campus where we went). If you removed all of the teens, it could have been anywhere traditional. Altar servers were in cassocks and surplices. Exposition and Benediction were done exactly as in the rubrics. Latin was used, as were many traditional hymns such as O Come All Ye Faithful. They never said anything about the charismatic gifts and let the Spirit move where it would. The focus of the talks were on love as an act of the will not feelings, conversion, the Mass, and the Sacraments. About the only thing that would have driven traditionalists mad was the praise and worship during adoration. One girl had her broken ankle healed, one of our teens was convicted to go to confession having never been before, and all of our teens came out of the conference with a deeper love of Jesus. Our Masses were presided by Bishop John Barres of Allentown, PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenciledOne Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 [quote name='Brother Adam' timestamp='1309294962' post='2259892'] Just got back from a youth conference, many of which Life Teen helps run (though not those on campus where we went). If you removed all of the teens, it could have been anywhere traditional. Altar servers were in cassocks and surplices. Exposition and Benediction were done exactly as in the rubrics. Latin was used, as were many traditional hymns such as O Come All Ye Faithful. They never said anything about the charismatic gifts and let the Spirit move where it would. The focus of the talks were on love as an act of the will not feelings, conversion, the Mass, and the Sacraments. About the only thing that would have driven traditionalists mad was the praise and worship during adoration. One girl had her broken ankle healed, one of our teens was convicted to go to confession having never been before, and all of our teens came out of the conference with a deeper love of Jesus. Our Masses were presided by Bishop John Barres of Allentown, PA. [/quote] Praise God!!! So, glad my University runs these things, alongside Lifeteen. Glad to hear everything was so anointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 [quote name='Brother Adam' timestamp='1309294962' post='2259892'] Just got back from a youth conference, many of which Life Teen helps run (though not those on campus where we went). If you removed all of the teens, it could have been anywhere traditional. Altar servers were in cassocks and surplices. Exposition and Benediction were done exactly as in the rubrics. Latin was used, as were many traditional hymns such as O Come All Ye Faithful. They never said anything about the charismatic gifts and let the Spirit move where it would. The focus of the talks were on love as an act of the will not feelings, conversion, the Mass, and the Sacraments. About the only thing that would have driven traditionalists mad was the praise and worship during adoration. One girl had her broken ankle healed, one of our teens was convicted to go to confession having never been before, and all of our teens came out of the conference with a deeper love of Jesus. Our Masses were presided by Bishop John Barres of Allentown, PA. [/quote] That's pretty neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dells_of_bittersweet Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 [quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1309294639' post='2259885'] How about this one... [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/camilam42/Church/15301_1369902721339_1044869211_1108034_7708710_n.jpg[/img] (prayers at the foot of the altar) or maybe Incensation before the Introit [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/camilam42/Church/15301_1369903081348_1044869211_1108042_1455136_n-1.jpg[/img] [/quote] That better not be SSPX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) [quote name='dells_of_bittersweet' timestamp='1309297884' post='2259910'] That better not be SSPX. [/quote] No it's not, that's me. and if you notice even closer, Mass is being celebrated on a freestanding altar. And who are you to judge if it were to be SSPX, anyhow? Even if you knew, could you tell the difference? [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/camilam42/Church/solemn-high-mass.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/camilam42/Church/IMG_4740.jpg[/IMG] Obviously you can't, that's why you're asking.... Edited June 28, 2011 by Cam42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Pictures from our youth conference: http://www.flickr.com/photos/franciscanuniversity/sets/72157627071223586/ Teens raising their hands to praise Jesus Christ instead of a satanic rock band. Terrifying right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenciledOne Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 I miss Franciscan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Whoa. Father Gregory rules. Penciled Dude, you graduated!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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