Don John of Austria Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 [quote name='HisChildForever' timestamp='1306902097' post='2248532'] Just because there were more pro-life people in the Texas restaurant than the Jersey restaurant on that day at that given time doesn't make Texans more pro-life. Remember that correlation doesn't equate causation. I'm pro-life (as you know) and I know a lot of people who are pro-life who wouldn't stand for the young woman to be "counseled" into an abortion. [/quote] ' No the factthat Texans are more prolife makes them more prolife... correlation does not equate t causation, but no one is saying it is causation, it is however, observation, and that is evidence. That doesn't mean there are no prolife people in New Jersey, but there are a great deal fewer proportionally. Don't worry, Louisiana is MUCH more prolife than Texas, there was a time where they had multiple laws outlawing abortion on the books which "kicked in" if the previous one was found Unconstitutional. We did fight the good fight all the way tothe Supreme court, but we never had the gumption to give them the finger quite like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 [quote name='Don John of Austria' timestamp='1306902907' post='2248546'] No the factthat Texans are more prolife makes them more prolife... correlation does not equate t causation, but no one is saying it is causation, it is however, observation, and that is evidence. That doesn't mean there are no prolife people in New Jersey, but there are a great deal fewer proportionally. [/quote] I don't know what state is more pro-life than the other, I would have to see the proper statistics. With that being said, the exclamation in the OP was a generalization based on a few video clips that alone can't be used to prove or disprove anything. To add, or rather to clarify, to me it would be like stating that since Texas has the largest Planned Parenthood facility, Texans must not be as pro-life as [insert state here]. It really doesn't bother me who is "more" pro-life because it's not a competition. I know I live in a blue state. It was the perceived generalization/conclusion that irked me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Don't perceive it as a generalization. Perceive it as a personal expression of joy over something good that happened, to which the OP-er feels connected by geography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 [quote name='Don John of Austria' timestamp='1306902907' post='2248546'] No the factthat Texans are more prolife makes them more prolife... correlation does not equate t causation, but no one is saying it is causation, it is however, observation, and that is evidence. [/quote] i'm confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 [quote name='Luigi' timestamp='1306903752' post='2248556'] Don't perceive it as a generalization. Perceive it as a personal expression of joy over something good that happened, to which the OP-er feels connected by geography. [/quote] It is what it is. In any event, I think we should be amazed that people are willing to defend abortion with such zeal and passion. I obviously expect pro-lifers to be passionate about saving a life. But to be passionate about ending a life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 [quote name='HisChildForever' timestamp='1306903465' post='2248552'] It was the [b]perceived[/b] generalization/conclusion that irked me. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 (edited) [quote name='HisChildForever' timestamp='1306904001' post='2248558']But to be passionate about ending a life?[/quote] it's not a life. it's a 'problem.' it's a 'burden.' that difference in wording makes it easy to be passionate, for pro-aborts. Edited June 1, 2011 by Lil Red grammatical error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 All the original poster said was, "amazing, the difference between texas and new jersey!" She notes a "difference" and comments that the difference is amazing. Another poster mentioned the Bible belt. A third poster declared Texas amesome. No one said one state was better than the other. No one drew a comparison. Except you. And you interpreted the non-comparison as an insult. Hhmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Sorry, bad stats get under my skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 [quote name='Don John of Austria' timestamp='1306902907' post='2248546'] ' No the factthat Texans are more prolife makes them more prolife... correlation does not equate t causation, but no one is saying it is causation, it is however, observation, and that is evidence. That doesn't mean there are no prolife people in New Jersey, but there are a great deal fewer proportionally. Don't worry, Louisiana is MUCH more prolife than Texas, there was a time where they had multiple laws outlawing abortion on the books which "kicked in" if the previous one was found Unconstitutional. We did fight the good fight all the way tothe Supreme court, but we never had the gumption to give them the finger quite like that. [/quote] I find it a bit...interesting that people are arguing that the unquestionably much more liberal northeastern states would have as many or more pro-lifers as those in Bible Belt states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don John of Austria Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 [quote name='HisChildForever' timestamp='1306903465' post='2248552'] I don't know what state is more pro-life than the other, I would have to see the proper statistics. With that being said, the exclamation in the OP was a generalization based on a few video clips that alone can't be used to prove or disprove anything. To add, or rather to clarify, to me it would be like stating that since Texas has the largest Planned Parenthood facility, Texans must not be as pro-life as [insert state here]. It really doesn't bother me who is "more" pro-life because it's not a competition. I know I live in a blue state. It was the perceived generalization/conclusion that irked me. [/quote] Yes we do have the biggest abortion clinic in the western Hemisphere, that monstrosity is less than 3 miles from me. But we have quite literally been forced to accept it. I look at other things, like the fact that NJ pays for abortions via medicaid, Texas does not, NARAL gives NJ an A- on abortion Rights, Texas gets a D+, of course we should all be working to get an F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 [quote name='Luigi' timestamp='1306904147' post='2248561'] All the original poster said was, "amazing, the difference between texas and new jersey!" She notes a "difference" and comments that the difference is amazing. [/quote] i guess i should have stated that i was amazed at the difference between the two states in the videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don John of Austria Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1306901333' post='2248520'] An 8 year vet n00b. You don't see that every day. Someday you'll be aw[i][/i]esome, Don John. [/quote] Actualy, I'm a 10 year vet at least. I remember the other Forums. And no I don't see it everyday. beaver dam disgraphia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Luigi' timestamp='1306904147' post='2248561'] All the original poster said was, "amazing, the difference between texas and new jersey!" She notes a "difference" and comments that the difference is amazing. Another poster mentioned the Bible belt. A third poster declared Texas amesome. No one said one state was better than the other. No one drew a comparison. Except you. And you interpreted the non-comparison as an insult. Hhmmmm. [/quote] It seems like you are the one getting in a huff, friend. I haven't engaged in a state "versus" state argument, I haven't drawn comparisons, and I certainly am not insulted by anything Red has said. I've just mentioned statistics and interpretations. Please don't start an argument where there is none. Chill. Edit because I missed the "n" in "none". Edited June 1, 2011 by HisChildForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1306904204' post='2248563'] I find it a bit...interesting that people are arguing that the unquestionably much more liberal northeastern states would have as many or more pro-lifers as those in Bible Belt states. [/quote] Sigh. I explicitly stated that I know I live in a blue state. I also stated that I'm personally unaware of the pro-life "statistics" of both states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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