dUSt Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 This is interesting... If you go by what the GIRM says, the language is, "... purifies, wipes, and arranges ...". This would lead me to believe that the purification is separate from the wiping which is separate from the arrangement. The way the GIRM words it, it is three separate steps--the wiping is separate from the purification. So, if the only thing that is strictly reserved for the priest, deacon or acolyte is the [b]purification[/b], then maybe the alter server [b]is[/b] allowed to do the wiping and the arranging. In other words, talk to the priest. hahaha It all takes us back to Cam's original reply... [quote]Absolutely not!!!! The wiping of the vessels is part of the purifying process. [/quote] Maybe we should have asked Cam how he was so certain that this is true. We may have all jumped to conclusions based on an erroneous assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevil Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 [quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1306461827' post='2246457'] Oh, I'm all for engaging a conversation, when a conversation is warranted. How is discussing a fact warranted.[/quote] Question for you Cam42, You seem to have a good grasp of what is right and what is wrong, so I'm looking to you as an authority on matters of right or wrong. [b]Is it wrong for the boy to ask the priest for clarification (in private) on Church etiquite if the boy doesn't understand why the priest is asking him to do something that the Church doesn't agree with? [/b]Is it a better approach to have the boy refuse the priest's request in front of the congregation during mass. Would this be a better approach for the boy, for the priest, for the congregation? It certainly would make mass interesting and would give people much to talk about. BTW is it important for the priest to be respected by his congregation? Would a boy pointing out his trangression in public impact the trust and respect necessary for the priest's role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 [quote name='stevil' timestamp='1306534634' post='2246896'] Question for you Cam42, You seem to have a good grasp of what is right and what is wrong, so I'm looking to you as an authority on matters of right or wrong. [b]Is it wrong for the boy to ask the priest for clarification (in private) on Church etiquite if the boy doesn't understand why the priest is asking him to do something that the Church doesn't agree with? [/b]Is it a better approach to have the boy refuse the priest's request in front of the congregation during mass. Would this be a better approach for the boy, for the priest, for the congregation? It certainly would make mass interesting and would give people much to talk about. BTW is it important for the priest to be respected by his congregation? Would a boy pointing out his trangression in public impact the trust and respect necessary for the priest's role? [/quote] This is my last post at phatmass... It has been made perfectly clear to me that I am not welcome here by dUSt. I don't fall into his cult of personality...and since I don't agree with him 100%, 100% of the time, I am phishy....that is a word of warning for you...from someone who used to be very well respected around here...don't cross dUSt, he knows better than the Church, when it comes to correct judgment of one's heart. Sooo...if you would like an answer you can find me over at [mod]Edited. -dUSt[/mod] I will answer your question there. I am literally shaking the dUSt from my pheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 [quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1306536016' post='2246901'] This is my last post at phatmass... [/quote] This must be the trendy thing to do. I wanna try sometime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 A video summary of this thread so far: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF0P5hS6DHo&feature=related[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 (edited) never mind, not gonna do it..... Edited May 27, 2011 by Lil Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 [quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1306536016' post='2246901'] This is my last post at phatmass... It has been made perfectly clear to me that I am not welcome here by dUSt. I don't fall into his cult of personality...and since I don't agree with him 100%, 100% of the time, I am phishy....that is a word of warning for you...from someone who used to be very well respected around here...don't cross dUSt, he knows better than the Church, when it comes to correct judgment of one's heart. [/quote] Sorry to see you go man. All I asked was that you follow the guidelines: http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?app=forums&module=extras§ion=boardrules The same rules apply to every single phatmasser, not just you. Actually, I think if you'd be willing to simply abide by the phorum guidelines you'd be the most amesome phatmasser ever. So, put it on me, sure. I don't mind at all. But the choice is actually yours. Either way, I wish you well in your quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudreyGrace Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Soooo.... how 'bout them vessels getting purified at Mass, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1306568196' post='2247011'] Sorry to see you go man. All I asked was that you follow the guidelines: http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?app=forums&module=extras§ion=boardrules The same rules apply to every single phatmasser, not just you. Actually, I think if you'd be willing to simply abide by the phorum guidelines you'd be the most amesome phatmasser ever. So, put it on me, sure. I don't mind at all. But the choice is actually yours. Either way, I wish you well in your quest. [/quote] dUSt, you always respond with kindness...its sad that you are so villified. I [i]always[/i] keep you and phatmass in my prayers... Edited May 28, 2011 by dominicansoul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 [quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1306569577' post='2247018'] dUSt, you always respond in kind...its sad that you are so villified. I [i]always[/i] keep you and phatmass in my prayers... [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 [quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1306569577' post='2247018'] dUSt, you always respond with kindness...its sad that you are so villified. I [i]always[/i] keep you and phatmass in my prayers... [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 [quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1306536016' post='2246901'] This is my last post at phatmass... It has been made perfectly clear to me that I am not welcome here by dUSt. I don't fall into his cult of personality...and since I don't agree with him 100%, 100% of the time, I am phishy....that is a word of warning for you...from someone who used to be very well respected around here...don't cross dUSt, he knows better than the Church, when it comes to correct judgment of one's heart. Sooo...if you would like an answer you can find me over at [mod]Edited. -dUSt[/mod] I will answer your question there. I am literally shaking the dUSt from my pheet. [/quote] Ciao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudreyGrace Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 [quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1306536016' post='2246901'] find me over at [mod]Edited. -dUSt[/mod] I will answer your question there. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gal. 5:22,23 Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 [quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1306531542' post='2246872'] This is the closest thing I have found so far, but the interpretation still has some greyspace I think. Unfortunately my pastor is out sick right now so I have to wait to ask. [/quote] Have you had the chance to ask him yet? I'm still getting conflicting information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo the Wanderer Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 [quote name='Gal. 5:22,23' timestamp='1306888017' post='2248431'] Have you had the chance to ask him yet? I'm still getting conflicting information. [/quote] not yet :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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