Jaime Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1306814545' post='2248005'] If an opinion expressed by a Vatican official lies outside his competency then it may be right or wrong, but that person, even if he is a bishop, enjoys no special teaching authority or protection from error with regards to those aspects outside his competency. For a more mundane example of what I'm talking about, if Cardinal Arinze writes out his personal favourite recipe for cake, I am perfectly free to say that he is mistaken in the ideal amount of flour, because he is not a chef, and he is probably not an authority on the issue of cake baking. [/quote] So you then agree with me when I say you summarily dismiss the quote that KFC used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='jaime (the artist formerly known as hot stuff)' timestamp='1306814770' post='2248007'] So you then agree with me when I say you summarily dismiss the quote that KFC used [/quote] No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1306814801' post='2248008'] No. [/quote] So you're cool with hypocrisy? Seems strange jo-jo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='jaime (the artist formerly known as hot stuff)' timestamp='1306814874' post='2248009'] So you're cool with hypocrisy? Seems strange [/quote] Nope. Your critical thinking in this thread leaves a lot to be desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 so anyway....is Obama out to take our guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1306815858' post='2248023'] so anyway....is Obama out to take our guns? [/quote] Only if he gets to keep them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Amppax' timestamp='1306815928' post='2248025'] Only if he gets to keep them [/quote] naw, he'll just turn them over to our new Dear Leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1306816570' post='2248031'] naw, he'll just turn them over to our new Dear Leaders. [/quote] Know who else tried to take America's guns? Muhammad. Coincidence? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1306816794' post='2248035'] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='jaime (the artist formerly known as hot stuff)' timestamp='1306771609' post='2247669'] I'm very much in favor of gun control. [/quote] Okay, but are you in favor of executive orders to bypass the normal means for changing the Constitution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1306847403' post='2248117'] Okay, but are you in favor of executive orders to bypass the normal means for changing the Constitution? [/quote] Nope, not me. Although I think that interpretations of the 2nd amendment would allow for gun control as is. then again, i'm not a constitutional scholar, so idk. Edited May 31, 2011 by Amppax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='jaime (the artist formerly known as hot stuff)' timestamp='1306797515' post='2247832'] Just for the record Gun deaths in Canada 4.78 per 100,000 per year Gun deaths in US 15 per 100,000 per year If it is immoral and unjust, I do like the outcome. [/quote] That number by itself means nothing. You need moar information to like those 4.78 deaths per 100,000. I, for instance have never murdered anyone with a firearm. You have no right to threaten me with death for owning one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 I'm all about phasers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Amppax' timestamp='1306847512' post='2248118'] Nope, not me. Although I think that interpretations of the 2nd amendment would allow for gun control as is. then again, i'm not a constitutional scholar, so idk. [/quote] Is control a form of infringement? Is the Constitution intended to create as classed society? The reason it all has to be "under the radar" is because a vocal minority of people want gun control. If they want to infringe on that right, then push for repeal of the amendment. One may cite gun deaths, but one needs to divide those deaths up to figure the affect of law-abiding citizens owning firearms. There is nothing immoral in owning or carrying a firearm. There is nothing special about a police officer that should increase his right to carry. We do not have a classed society, and we do have equal protection under the law. If I can be punished for having a firearm in a place that an off duty officer may carry, then we do not have equal protection under the law. I am then a subject of the state and not in a government of by and for the people. Edited May 31, 2011 by Winchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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