Jaime Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1306796401' post='2247816'] Idgi. [/quote] yes pictures without lolcats on them are hard to understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='jaime (the artist formerly known as hot stuff)' timestamp='1306797226' post='2247827'] yes pictures without lolcats on them are hard to understand [/quote] Yes Jimmy, that's exactly what the problem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1306796557' post='2247818'] Just for the record, in case anyone hasn't extrapolated this yet, I consider the Canadian government's limiting of the ability to carry firearms to police and armoured car workers to be immoral and unjust. [/quote] Just for the record Gun deaths in Canada 4.78 per 100,000 per year Gun deaths in US 15 per 100,000 per year If it is immoral and unjust, I do like the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='jaime (the artist formerly known as hot stuff)' timestamp='1306797515' post='2247832'] Just for the record Gun deaths in Canada 4.78 per 100,000 per year Gun deaths in US 15 per 100,000 per year If it is immoral and unjust, I do like the outcome. [/quote] Consequentialism ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1306798786' post='2247837'] Consequentialism ftw. [/quote] So less death is not a good argument in your opinion See when folks who are pro-gun discuss this with me they always argue that it's their constitutional right. And they're right. It's a legitimate argument.You don't have that argument and iif you are going to go from the moral standpoint, I'm not sure where you have an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1306797494' post='2247831'] Yes Jimmy, that's exactly what the problem is. [/quote] Whoa. What did you have to do to be on the "Jimmy" level with hot stuff? You two have come a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1306796114' post='2247811'] I consider self-defense to be a human right, and therefore a moral issue, and I consider firearms and other weapons to simply be tools to enforce that right. I think that to restrict those tools is to attack the right itself. I don't care what your constitution says; I don't live there. Edited for typo. [/quote] The Vatican has come out in favor of gun control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1306803050' post='2247874'] The Vatican has come out in favor of gun control. [/quote] source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Amppax' timestamp='1306804758' post='2247905'] source? [/quote] how dare you question hassy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' timestamp='1306804952' post='2247912'] how dare you question hassy. [/quote] EEEEEEK SORRY please forgive me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Amppax' timestamp='1306804758' post='2247905'] source? [/quote] [url="http://www.catholicculture.org/news/features/index.cfm?recnum=45068"]http://www.catholicculture.org/news/features/index.cfm?recnum=45068[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' timestamp='1306804952' post='2247912'] how dare you question hassy. [/quote] Yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1306805033' post='2247914'] [url="http://www.catholicculture.org/news/features/index.cfm?recnum=45068"]http://www.catholicc...fm?recnum=45068[/url] [/quote] *edit: nevermind Edited May 31, 2011 by Amppax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 It is unfortunate when well-meaning Vatican officials speak on topics that are not necessarily within their competency. It creates a lot of confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1306809479' post='2247951'] It is unfortunate when well-meaning Vatican officials speak on topics that are not necessarily within their competency. It creates a lot of confusion. [/quote] Why would it be outside of his competency? how do you know what he knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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