Ed Normile Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I read several months ago that they were expecting this because the current el nino pattern was starting to break up. Storms that killed many people 60 years ago had to be worse as there was a lot less population at that time. Trust in God, I also am very fond of the Prayer of Blessing Against Storms that is found on page 20 of The Pieta Prayer Book! My family and I have said this prayer 3 times tonight and went to shelter only to have the bad part just miss us, thank God. ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 [quote name='Ed Normile' timestamp='1306389637' post='2246122'] Storms that killed many people 60 years ago had to be worse as there was a lot less population at that time.[/quote] Can't forget the super outbreak of 1974... smh... Scary stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 [quote name='Ed Normile' timestamp='1306389637' post='2246122'] I read several months ago that they were expecting this because the current el nino pattern was starting to break up. Storms that killed many people 60 years ago had to be worse as there was a lot less population at that time. Trust in God, I also am very fond of the Prayer of Blessing Against Storms that is found on page 20 of The Pieta Prayer Book! My family and I have said this prayer 3 times tonight and went to shelter only to have the bad part just miss us, thank God. ed [/quote] Not sure I completely agree. They didn't have near the warning systems back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 [quote name='thessalonian' timestamp='1306698879' post='2247451'] Not sure I completely agree. They didn't have near the warning systems back then. [/quote] Yeah, there are a lot of factors. It's hard to know too because the data is pretty cr[s][/s]ap until quite recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanCatholic Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Where has the Catholic view of these thIngs gone over the last 40 years? We always used to explain such matters with an eye of faith. God is sending us a warning, not only in the US, but throughout the world. Repent of our sins, be reconciled to God or else. An example is Haiti. The Dominican Republic and Haiti are on the same fault line. Do not tell me it's "coincidence" that the DR was spared and Haiti not. In fact, it was spared because about a month earlier, the Bishops consecrated the DR to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. We need to heed the warnings before it is too late! Ad Jesum Per Mariam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinzo Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 I remember reading we had a record number of tornadoes in April this year for the USA. I don't know if the end times are upon us or not but it's definitely BAD. I just moved from Washington DC which has had a lot of bad thunderstorms the last couple of years, sometimes knocking the power out for many for DAYS, even WEEKS. And that is totally unusual for the area. People blame the power co. but they are coping with high winds and storms that are simply unprecedented. And then there are the floods... S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Nobody knows when the end times will be and whether or not this fulfills prophecy, but it certainly is a reminder to remain vigilant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='AudreyGrace' timestamp='1306352757' post='2245899'] global climate change. but that's a whole other thread. [/quote] http://www.firstthings.com/article/2011/05/the-truth-about-greenhouse-gases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southern california guy Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Since I live in Southern California I haven't been bothered the least by this weather. It's perfect down here! Sorry I couldn't resist teasing. I know that you're talking about how you think that it is an omen of the final days. Seriously I don't look at it that way. I got my degree in geology and when you study the stratigraphy -- the rock layers that make up the earth -- you see the earth has gone through cycle after cycle of warming and cooling. Some of the changes occurred very quickly and that is shown by the fossil records. Animals would go extinct. And there would be much more volcanic activity -- much more carbon (ash) going into the environment. This had nothing to do with man since there were no people during many of these episodes. From what I've read there appears to be a connection between weather, volcanism, and earthquakes -- and that appears to be the sun. Earthquakes seem to happen during periods of warm weather. And that would suggest that earthquakes are being driven by forces outside of the earth rather that inside (As primitive geology theory used to suggest). It used to be thought (And some people still teach..) that the earths plates are being driven my convection currents with the molten mantle of the earth. The only problem with that theory is that the mantle of the earth is NOT molten! The pressure, the weight, of the plates (lithosphere), prevent the mantle from melting. What happens is that the plates are "pulled" apart, pressure is released, the mantle melts and swells, and volcanoes are produced. The plates are probably pulled apart by the same sorts of forces that drive the tides of the oceans of the world. Not only do our oceans move, but so do the very plates that they sit on. When the plates move you get earthquakes, you get volcanism. The tides are driven by the moon -- but maybe only in part. The major thing that affects the earth is the sun. The sun has a tremendous gravitational pull, the earth and all of the planets in our solar system revolve around it. It's the sun that controls the weather, it's probably the gravitational pulls from the sun that drive the movement of the plates on the earth. And if that is the case than it's not surprising at all that when our weather becomes more severe -- because of changes in the sun -- we also experience much more volcanism and big earthquakes. The sun is classified a "stable" star, but it's not perfectly stable. Changes in the sun would explain changes in the earth. Geologically the recent changes in the earth are pretty minor and insignificant. There won't be much left in the rock record to show the changes that we've experienced. The earth has historically gone through much more extreme cycles of warming and cooling. And if the earth is 6.4 billion years old -- as the rock record would imply (The bible doesn't explicitly give an age of the earth. People are nuts who try to get that out of it.) then we have little to worry about in terms of the world coming to an end. However the earth will probably continue to go through severe weather until the suns cycle of solar spots, and changes, lesson. Historically it always has -- for the last 6.4 billion years. So rather than planning for the end times and predicting the rapture, or doing crazy things, or becoming obsessed with the idea that "global warming" has been caused by man, we need to prepare ourselves for more bad weather and the related difficulties. It's just common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 interesting, scg. thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southern california guy Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1306781429' post='2247718'] interesting, scg. thanks for sharing! [/quote] You're welcome. And if you guys want to do some research on your own the geologist who argued for a change in the way we view plate tectonics is named "Macdonald". I don't remember his first name, but the first article I ever read by him was done by Haymon and Macdonald. And Macdonalds stuff on plate tectonics is great! Edited May 30, 2011 by southern california guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaatee Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='HollyWilliams' timestamp='1306305353' post='2245676'] Yeah, I suppose you're right. It just seems like things are worse this year than ever before. [/quote] They are worse in that there[i] are[/i] more tornadoes this year, more people are living in the tornado belt and more are living in flimsy motor homes--all of these facts are mentioned in the coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='southern california guy' timestamp='1306781313' post='2247716'] Since I live in Southern California I haven't been bothered the least by this weather. It's perfect down here! [/quote] I have a friend in San Diego. The last two earthquakes shook her up. Not to mention the bad fire season. Everyone gets something, it comes with the territory of living on Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southern california guy Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='CatherineM' timestamp='1306787257' post='2247761'] I have a friend in San Diego. The last two earthquakes shook her up. Not to mention the bad fire season. Everyone gets something, it comes with the territory of living on Earth. [/quote] That's true. I was sorta exaggerating in saying that it's perfect down here. But I'll take the earthquakes over the tornadoes and hurricanes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 And here I was all mad that the English rain left me unable to do yard work today. Perspective, now I gots it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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