infinitelord1 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) 44% of Democrats believe that immigration should be made easier by means of Amnesty....then it follows as 33% Independents.....then 16% of Republicans agree with this concept. I think we are better off voting Republican and we should make sure the candidate is not a border panderer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq8wvG7p1c4 Edited May 26, 2011 by infinitelord1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) I deleted this post. I don't want to get into a massive argument. Edited May 26, 2011 by Era Might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 here's how [url="http://markshea.blogspot.com/2011/05/im-feeling-less-alone.html"]Mark Shea[/url] puts it: [quote]Typically, at this point, I'm told that I'm being a "purist" because I won't vote for a candidate who endorses grave and intrinsic evil. I always wonder what such people think that term means. Saying no to grave intrinsic evil is not "purism". It's basic minimalist human decency--like going to a restaurant and settling for a gut bomb burger made mostly of gristle and fat but drawing the line at a meal made of human flesh. Those who urge me to go ahead and eat the prolife pizza bedecked with human flesh pepperoni on the grounds that it's better than a big fat slab of human flesh sirloin steak don't move me with their accusations of sniffy "purism". I prefer no human flesh at all, thank you. And so I will not vote for a GOPer who endorses torture (as, for instance, Cain, Pawlenty, and Santorum) do, any more than I will vote for Obama. [b]Those who tell me that to do so is not "pro-life" simply don't grasp what "pro-life" means, and instead labor under the illusion that opposition to abortion taketh away the sins of the world. I will never back down on my opposition to abortion, but neither will I let that opposition be used as a cover for approving other sins the Church warns are worthy of the fires of hell.[/b] I will not eat human flesh steak *or* human flesh pepperoni on a pro-life pizza.[/quote] i definitely agree with the last part, as more and more 'conservatives' are coming out (lol, i made a funny) in support of gay marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1306356915' post='2245935'] he just seems to be this bland candidate in a string of bland candidates. [/quote] I agree with you. But it makes me sad that we can't just choose the best person. The person has to be a rock star, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 [quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1306422088' post='2246202'] I agree with you. But it makes me sad that we can't just choose the best person. The person has to be a rock star, too. [/quote] Iawtc ianwp I think Pawlenty is actually playing it smart right now. In this asinine process, candidates peak and valley like the latest blockbuster movie. If I were him, I wouldn't want to peak too early either. He's building ground support right now so bland is actually working for him. Not that I ever see him being a rockstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagiDragon Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1306393633' post='2246139'] here's how [url="http://markshea.blogspot.com/2011/05/im-feeling-less-alone.html"]Mark Shea[/url] puts it: i definitely agree with the last part, as more and more 'conservatives' are coming out (lol, i made a funny) in support of gay marriage. [/quote] I'm going out on a limb here, so feel free to flame me. Honestly, I think we might have a 'problem' the church/government has created which isn't really a problem: Why do we consider a 'marriage' by a JoP to be the same thing as the sacrament of Matrimony? It seems to me that a better and more lasting solution would be to simply have the government cease recognizing marriages. It seems to me that the only thing having the government recognize marriages does is to give the government a stick to poke Christianity. Lets just take the stick away, and then we can follow the Church regardless of anything the government says. Clearly, I'm not advocating same sex marriage on the one hand, and I'm not advocating doing away with marriage on the other, so I *think* I'm within the bounds of Orthodox Christianity here . . . Any thoughts? Peace, Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 [quote name='jaime (the artist formerly known as hot stuff)' timestamp='1306427799' post='2246233'] Not that I ever see him being a rockstar [/quote] Maybe a hockey star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 [quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1306441231' post='2246322'] Maybe a hockey star. [/quote] he's got way too many teeth for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 [quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1306441231' post='2246322'] Maybe a hockey star. [/quote] exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyLane Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 [quote name='CherieMadame' timestamp='1306171541' post='2244916'] Nah, I'm just not entirely convinced about Libertarianism. [/quote] I understand what you are saying. Paul is extremely pro-life though, and is even a pro-life doctor. He thinks that it should be up to the States and more localized power to make the laws. He believes the federal government is too big... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1306393633' post='2246139'] here's how [url="http://markshea.blogspot.com/2011/05/im-feeling-less-alone.html"]Mark Shea[/url] puts it: i definitely agree with the last part, as more and more 'conservatives' are coming out (lol, i made a funny) in support of gay marriage. [/quote] YAY reading this reminded me how much i love mark shea NO HOMO Edited May 28, 2011 by Amppax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 What's everyone got against Rick Santorum? According to Wikipedia... "[i]Santorum and his family usually attend Latin Mass at Saint Catherine of Siena church, near Washington, D.C. On November 12, 2004, Santorum and his wife were invested as Knight and Dame of Magistral Grace of the Knights of Malta in a ceremony at St. Patrick's Cathedral, New York."[/i] Sounds amesome!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseFound Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) Isn't Sarah Palin going to try and go for it? On a similar note, apparently she's coming to Europe soon. I don't even want to be on the same continent as her (or 'country', as she probably thinks Europe is). Edited for typo. Edited June 6, 2011 by ParadiseFound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1307379293' post='2250448'] What's everyone got against Rick Santorum? According to Wikipedia... "[i]Santorum and his family usually attend Latin Mass at Saint Catherine of Siena church, near Washington, D.C. On November 12, 2004, Santorum and his wife were invested as Knight and Dame of Magistral Grace of the Knights of Malta in a ceremony at St. Patrick's Cathedral, New York."[/i] Sounds amesome!!! [/quote] he's pro-torture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I have stopped hoping for a decent candidate from either of the two parties. It's just not going to happen, not this term anyway. Both parties seem to have the usual increase of spending in mind, just at differing rates, and of course Republicans seem interested in not raising taxes too. Nobody wants to face up (on national TV or in newspapers where everyone can see him) to the spending problems, or the debt problems, or the right-to-life violation problems, the judicial system problems, or even basic property right problems. Partisan politics is a loosing game when both dominant parties share common interests for the reduction of liberty for all people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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