Lil Red Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 [url="http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/14/indiana-supreme-court-rules-hoosiers-have-no-right-to-resist-unlawful-entry-of-their-homes-by-police/"]From Hot Air[/url] [quote]In a 3-2 decision, Justice Steven David writing for the court said if a police officer wants to enter a home [i]for any reason or no reason at all[/i], a homeowner cannot do anything to block the officer’s entry. [emphasis mine][/quote] [quote]“We believe … a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence,” David said. “We also find that allowing resistance unnecessarily escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of injuries to all parties involved without preventing the arrest.” David said a person arrested following an unlawful entry by police still can be released on bail and has plenty of opportunities to protest the illegal entry through the court system.[/quote] from the article by Bruce McQuain at HotAir: [quote]One has to wonder what part of “unlawful” Justice David doesn’t get. What part of the right of the people to “be secure… shall not be violated” wasn’t taught to him in law school. How secure is anyone in their “persons, houses, papers and effects” if, per David, a police officer can waltz into any home he wants to “for any reason or no reason at all?” The given reason by the Justice is resistance is “against public policy?” What policy is that? For whatever reason, most believe our public policy as regards our homes is set by the 4th amendment to the US Constitution. Since when does Indiana’s “public policy” abrogate the Constitutional right to be “secure in our persons, houses, papers and effects”? Additionally, most would assume it is the job of the police not to “escalate the level of violence”, not the homeowner. Like maybe a polite knock on a door to attempt an arrest instead of a battering ram and the violent entry of a full SWAT team to arrest a suspected perpetrator of a non-violent crime. Maybe a little pre-raid intelligence gathering, or snagging the alleged perp when he leaves the house to go to work, or walk the dog, or go to the store. Now citizens in Indiana are to give up their 4th Amendment rights because it might “elevate the violence” if they attempt to protect themselves from unlawful activity? Sounds like the “don’t resist rape” nonsense that was once so popular.[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don John of Austria Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 O I read about this saturday. Indiana, so nice of it to go full tyranny isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagiDragon Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 [quote name='Don John of Austria' timestamp='1305564894' post='2242332'] O I read about this saturday. Indiana, so nice of it to go full tyranny isn't it. [/quote] We Hoosiers have probably elected the antithesis of this croutons, yet the courts still force it on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I'm assuming the ACLU and the Supreme Court will fix this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcts Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 So we have this, but we just got some amesome anti-abortion laws. No good deed goes unpunished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' timestamp='1305654608' post='2242852'] I'm assuming the ACLU and the Supreme Court will fix this. [/quote] Unless it's about guns, which the A"CL"U thinks are reserved to government ownership. I hate the ACLU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo the Wanderer Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 [img]http://www.politifake.org/image/political/small/1011/aclu-tsa-groping-pat-down-aclu-political-poster-1290393302.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shover Robot Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' timestamp='1305654608' post='2242852'] I'm assuming the ACLU and the Supreme Court will fix this. [/quote] Don't be so sure. http://www.toledoblade.com/Editorials/2011/05/22/Fourth-Amendment-folly.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Go to page 33, line 23 of the following sentencing document: http://www.vince-testa.net/index_files/Sentencing.pdf Whether or not the defendant has an anger problem is not the point, but the statement that you can't show a paper warrant because of the "sheer volume" strkes me as "sorry, it's too inconvenient for us to follow the Constitution". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) It's almost like unlawful police entries are supposed to be sorted out in the courts or something. What am I saying! If any citizen even feels like the police entering their house might be illegal they should just mow those fudgers down the second they cross the doorway. Edited May 28, 2011 by Hasan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 there's all kinds of warrant exceptions, that the supreme court and long tradition has said is permissible. 'probable cause' etc etc. if that's not asking for trouble,when people can attack the police, i dont know what standard would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudreyGrace Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Sounds a lot like [i]King v Kentucky[/i], but that case dealt more with exigent circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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