ParadiseFound Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 An Iranian man who threw acid into a woman's face and destroyed her eyesight has been sentenced to having the same punishment inflicted on him, at the request of his victim. Read the full story here: [url="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/28/iran-acid-attack-sharia-law"]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/28/iran-acid-attack-sharia-law[/url] This is apparently legal under the oh so fair and reasonable 'justice' system known as sharia law. What are everyone's thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RezaMikhaeil Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 I see that you saw this too huh? Actually he did more then destroy her eyesight, he disfigured her face. She was once a beautiful young lady and he stole that which G-d had given to her. [img]http://english.aljazeera.net/mritems/Images/2011/5/14/201151485059774734_20.jpg[/img] She now has to go under hundreds of surgeries to just get her to appear half way normal. All that the judge sentenced him to was blinding with acid [a pinch of what he did to her]. She herself was going to be present and has the opportunity to do it herself if she so choses. This is a real problem throughout many third world countries, particularly Pakistan, India, Bangledesh and I think Iran wants to squash such problems with their "eye for an eye" laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 [quote name='ParadiseFound' timestamp='1305413486' post='2241551'] This is apparently legal under the oh so fair and reasonable 'justice' system known as sharia law. What are everyone's thoughts on this? [/quote] I don't see anything unjust about this. And I don't see how this is anything other than fair and reasonable. As Reza noted, he's really getting off easy. He's just being blinded. That's only part of what he did to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 I had someone say that to me right before he attempted to stab my eye out. Thank God for thick glasses. Can't say I approve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSilverPhinx Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) Apparently he might only get blinded in one eye, and only after he's unconcious in a hospital ward. More like 'an eye for two eyes'. Edited May 15, 2011 by xSilverPhinx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Well to make him take that conscious would qualify as torture and cannot be justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RezaMikhaeil Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1305418085' post='2241583'] Well to make him take that conscious would qualify as torture and cannot be justified. [/quote] Half the torture...actually less then half the torture that he gave her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 [quote name='RezaMikhaeil' timestamp='1305418149' post='2241585'] Half the torture...actually less then half the torture that he gave her. [/quote] Doesn't justify torturing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RezaMikhaeil Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1305418756' post='2241588'] Doesn't justify torturing him. [/quote] We he better the woman to pardon him, but it doesn't look like she is going to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) i dont condone it. it's simply too much of 'an eye for an eye' and barbaric. with that said, we do punish people for the sake of 'justice' only, even if it's putting them in prison. now, we can squabble about whether this or that constitutes as 'preventing other damages to society' by putting htem in jail, but at the end of the day, it's often if not only in some situations due to 'justice' only. that's also 'an eye for an eye', to a large degree, isn't it? and it might not be plying fingers off or throwing acid on faces, but in some sense it's 'torture'. Edited May 15, 2011 by dairygirl4u2c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RezaMikhaeil Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 [quote name='dairygirl4u2c' timestamp='1305419495' post='2241592'] i dont condone it. it's simply too much of 'an eye for an eye' and barbaric. with that said, we do punish people for the sake of 'justice' only, even if it's putting them in prison. now, we can squabble about whether this or that constitutes as 'preventing other damages to society' by putting htem in jail, but at the end of the day, it's often if not only in some situations due to 'justice' only. that's also 'an eye for an eye', to a large degree, isn't it? and it might not be plying fingers off or throwing acid on faces, but in some sense it's 'torture'. [/quote] As much as I'd like to agree with you, putting people behind bars for acid throwing attacks hasn't hindered the throwers for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) Can someone explain how this is 'barbaric' but locking somebody in a small cage for 23 hours a day for years on end is enlightened and just? Violence is inherent to the state system. People just prefer it be disguised rather than accept it as an essential part to the system they depend on. So people want to put criminals away and pretend that if they just lock them in a small cage with other violent men, out of sight out of mind, we are being enlightened and humane. Edited May 15, 2011 by Hasan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) [quote name='ParadiseFound' timestamp='1305413486' post='2241551']This is apparently legal under the oh so fair and reasonable 'justice' system known as sharia law. What are everyone's thoughts on this? [/quote] I don't think it's any more arbitrary and unreasonable than American sentencing. Would you rather have acid thrown on your face or be put in prison for 25 years? I think I'd take the acid. The American justice system thinks that because it does not inflict physical harm, that therefore it does not inflict harm. Frankly, I think some corporal punishments can be more humane than years and years of mental anguish in prison (not that either type of punishment solves the real problem). I'm not saying I support throwing acid in people's faces as punishment. I'm just saying that I don't think it's necessarily any more cruel than locking a man away for years. Edited May 15, 2011 by Era Might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 [quote name='RezaMikhaeil' timestamp='1305419240' post='2241591'] We he better the woman to pardon him, but it doesn't look like she is going to do so. [/quote] we should also pray for her to find the path to forgiveness (at least if he's sorry, which is another long difficult thread in itself to address). she's been put in a difficult path in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 [quote name='Era Might' timestamp='1305421527' post='2241601'] I don't think it's any more arbitrary and unreasonable than American sentencing. Would you rather have acid thrown on your face or be put in prison for 25 years? I think I'd take the acid. The American justice system thinks that because it does not inflict physical harm, that therefore it does not inflict harm. Frankly, I think corporal punishments are preferable to years and years of mental anguish (not that either of them solve the problem). I'm not saying I support throwing acid in people's faces as punishment. I'm just saying that I don't think it's any more cruel than locking a man away for years. [/quote] Wow. Stop the presses. Era and Hassan agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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