the lumberjack Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 so you can PM, right? awwww mannnn.... I wanna PM someone...then I wanna be catholic too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted May 21, 2004 Author Share Posted May 21, 2004 anyone who doesn't have a "non-Catholic" title can use the PM function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 [quote name='the lumberjack' date='May 21 2004, 01:15 PM'] so you can PM, right? awwww mannnn.... I wanna PM someone...then I wanna be catholic too... [/quote] See? Becoming Catholic has it's benefits. Bro Adam converted for a phatmass t-shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietfire Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 (edited) So if I become a (drum roll please) full fledged, honest to goodness, didnt just stop at being baptised Catholic, Catholic.... then can I have a phatmass t-shirt too? (and a taco?) Peace. Dust, please dont change my status to Non-Catholic, that would really hurt. I'm Catholic by desire. Even without the t-shirt. he,he. Edited May 21, 2004 by Quietfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lumberjack Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 [quote name='dUSt' date='May 21 2004, 12:39 PM'] See? Becoming Catholic has it's benefits. Bro Adam converted for a phatmass t-shirt. [/quote] sign me up pal! 'SPECIALLY IF I GET A TACO! i get to pm again, I get a taco, and a tshirt! WOO HOOO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangel Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 The quote from Clement of Rome, "We also, being called through God's will in Christ Jesus, are not justified through ourselves, neither through our own wisdom or understanding, or piety, or works which we have done in holiness or heart, but through faith" (Epistle to Corinthians), is taken out of context. His letter continues with the following: [quote]CHAPTER 33 -- BUT LET US NOT OWE UP THE PRACTICE OF GOOD WORKS AND LOVE. [b]GOD HIMSELF IS AN EXAMPLE TO US OF GOOD WORKS.[/b] What shall we do, then, brethren? Shall we become slothful in well-doing, and cease from the practice of love? God forbid that any such course should be followed by us! But rather [b]let us hasten with all energy and readiness of mind to perform every good work. For the Creator and Lord of all Himself rejoices in His works.[/b] For by His infinitely great power He established the heavens, and by His incomprehensible wisdom He adorned them. He also divided the earth from the water which surrounds it, and fixed it upon the immoveable foundation of His own will. The animals also which are upon it He commanded by His own word into existence. So likewise, when He had formed the sea, and the living creatures which are in it, He enclosed them [within their proper bounds] by His own power. Above all, with His holy and undefiled hands He formed man, the most excellent [of His creatures], and truly great through the understanding given him -- the express likeness of His own image. For thus says God: "Let us make man in Our image, and after Our likeness. So God made man; male and female He created them." Having thus finished all these things, He approved them, and blessed them, and said, "Increase and multiply." We see, then, how [b]all righteous men have been adorned with good works, and how the Lord Himself, adorning Himself with His works, rejoiced.[/b] Having therefore such an example, [b]let us without delay accede to His will, and let us work the work of righteousness with our whole strength.[/b] CHAPTER 34 -- [b]GREAT IS THE REWARD OF GOOD WORKS WITH GOD.[/b] JOINED TOGETHER IN HARMONY, LET US IMPLORE THAT REWARD FROM HIM. The good servant receives the bread of his labour with confidence; the lazy and slothful cannot look his employer in the face. It is requisite, therefore, that we be prompt in the practice of well-doing; for of Him are all things. And thus He forewarns us: [b]"Behold, the Lord [cometh], and His reward is before His face, to render to every man according to his work." He exhorts us, therefore, with our whole heart to attend to this, that we be not lazy or slothful in any good work.[/b] Let our boasting and our confidence be in Him. Let us submit ourselves to His will. Let us consider the whole multitude of His angels, how they stand ever ready to minister to His will. For the Scripture says, "Ten thousand times ten thousand stood around Him, and thousands of thousands ministered to Him, and cried, Holy, holy, holy, the Lord of Sabaoth; the whole creation is full of His glory." And let us therefore, conscientiously gathering together in harmony, cry to Him earnestly, as with one mouth, that we may be made partakers of His great and glorious promises. For [the Scripture] says, "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, neither has it entered into the heart of man, the things which He has prepared for those who wait for Him." [/quote] We need to have faith and demonstrate that faith through our good works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamattman1 Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 You don't have a million posts like your info says do you Brother Adam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 since the component of works--the "obedient" nature of faith--is obviously understood by every catholic theologian, none of the testimony that was provided is contradictory to what Catholics believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted May 24, 2004 Author Share Posted May 24, 2004 they used the words "faith alone" can you explain how you know for sure they understood the obediant nature of faith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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