Bin Laden Dead!

[Lil Red]

knock it off, both of you. put each other on ignore.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1304363888' post='2235861']
knock it off, both of you. put each other on ignore.
[/quote]
It would be nice if he was on topic.

[Mr.Cat]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1304364016' post='2235863']It would be nice if he was on topic.[/quote]She told us to knock it off comrade!

Ignore me already. Besides, it was a valid question to your dumping, which you admitted you were dumping.

Edited May 2, 2011 by Mr.CatholicCat

[Nihil Obstat]

[19] There was a certain rich man, who was clothed in purple and fine linen; and feasted sumptuously every day. [20] And there was a certain beggar, named Lazarus, who lay at his gate, full of sores,

[21] Desiring to be filled with the crumbs that fell from the rich man's table, and no one did give him; moreover the dogs came, and licked his sores. [22] And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom. And the rich man also died: and he was buried in hell. [23] And lifting up his eyes when he was in torments, he saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom: [24] And he cried, and said: Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, to cool my tongue: for I am tormented in this flame. [25] And Abraham said to him: Son, remember that thou didst receive good things in thy lifetime, and likewise Lazareth evil things, but now he is comforted; and thou art tormented.

[color="#0000FF"][size="2"][22] "Abraham's bosom"... The place of rest, where the souls of the saints resided, till Christ had opened heaven by his death.
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[26] And besides all this, between us and you, there is fixed a great chaos: so that they who would pass from hence to you, cannot, nor from thence come hither. [27] And he said: Then, father, I beseech thee, that thou wouldst send him to my father's house, for I have five brethren, [28] That he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torments. [29] And Abraham said to him: They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. [30] But he said: No, father Abraham: but if one went to them from the dead, they will do penance.

[31] And he said to him: If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they believe, if one rise again from the dead.

[4588686]

Could both of you please just stop?

[Selah]

It's interesting reading some of these Facebook posts. Many of them are one extreme all the way to another.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Selah' timestamp='1304364607' post='2235871']
It's interesting reading some of these Facebook posts. Many of them are one extreme all the way to another.
[/quote]
Especially interesting is how many who consider themselves to be pro-life are so quick to hope that he is "rotting in hell". Very disturbing, in my opinion. They're letting emotion and nationalism take precedence over Christian love.

[1] If I speak with the tongues of men, and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. [2] And if I should have prophecy and should know all mysteries, and all knowledge, and if I should have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, [b]and have not charity, I am nothing[/b]. [3] And if I should distribute all my goods to feed the poor, and if I should deliver my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. [4] Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; [5] Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, [b]is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil[/b];

[6] [b]Rejoiceth not in iniquity[/b], but rejoiceth with the truth; [7] Beareth all things, believeth all things, [b]hopeth all things[/b], endureth all things. [8] Charity never falleth away: whether prophecies shall be made void, or tongues shall cease, or knowledge shall be destroyed. [9] For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. [10] But when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away.

[11] When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child. But, [b]when I became a man, I put away the things of a child[/b]. [12] We see now through a glass in a dark manner; but then face to face. Now I know in part; but then I shall know even as I am known. [13] And now there remain faith, hope, and charity, these three: but [b]the greatest of these is charity[/b].

[Amppax]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1304364946' post='2235876']
Especially interesting is how many who consider themselves to be pro-life are so quick to hope that he is "rotting in hell". Very disturbing, in my opinion. They're letting emotion and nationalism take precedence over Christian love.
[/quote]

I've noticed this from a lot of people, it is a shame, it is something that some of my friends cite as reasons for leaving the Church. Flawed though those reasons are, it is just a reminder to us of how serious the call to live out our faith is, there are people's souls on the line here!

[Era Might]

The wages of sin are death. Osama Bin Laden reaped what he sowed. I don't see any reason to manufacture false pity for an historically evil figure. As a man, I certainly mourn for Bin Laden in the way I mourn for all poor sinners. But as an historical figure, he is more a subject for analysis than a subject for personal feeling (that's true for most historical figures).

But, at the same time, just as Bin Laden's historical death is a subject for analysis, the nation that pursued him is also a subject for analysis. I'm not one to get behind nationalistic "celebration" over Bin Laden's death. His death is propaganda for the United States as much as it is for terrorists. The "patriotic" response is to insert Bin Laden's death in the narrative of America's role as a supposed "global force for good." But all this patriotic celebration has nothing to do with justice. As someone once remarked to me, "Governments do not have friends, they have interests." Bin Laden's death is in the United State's interests. Let's not kid ourselves that it's anything more than that.

I do not mourn Bin Laden's death. Neither do I celebrate it.

[Selah]

[quote name='Era Might' timestamp='1304366152' post='2235894']
But, at the same time, just as Bin Laden's historical death is a subject for analysis, the nation that pursued him is also a subject for analysis. I'm not one to get behind nationalistic "celebration" over Bin Laden's death. His death is propaganda for the United States as much as it is for terrorists. The "patriotic" response is to insert Bin Laden's death in the narrative of America's role as a supposed "global force for good." But all this patriotic celebration has nothing to do with justice. As someone once remarked to me, "Governments do not have friends, they have interests." Bin Laden's death is in the United State's interests. Let's not kid ourselves that it's anything more than that.

I do not mourn Bin Laden's death. Neither do I celebrate it.
[/quote]

I pretty much agree with this.

Edited May 2, 2011 by Selah

[TeresaBenedicta]

[quote name='Era Might' timestamp='1304366152' post='2235894']
The wages of sin are death. Osama Bin Laden reaped what he sowed. I don't see any reason to manufacture false pity for an historically evil figure. As a man, I certainly mourn for Bin Laden in the way I mourn for all poor sinners. But as an historical figure, he is more a subject for analysis than a subject for personal feeling (that's true for most historical figures).

But, at the same time, just as Bin Laden's historical death is a subject for analysis, the nation that pursued him is also a subject for analysis. I'm not one to get behind nationalistic "celebration" over Bin Laden's death. His death is propaganda for the United States as much as it is for terrorists. The "patriotic" response is to insert Bin Laden's death in the narrative of America's role as a supposed "global force for good." But all this patriotic celebration has nothing to do with justice. As someone once remarked to me, "Governments do not have friends, they have interests." Bin Laden's death is in the United State's interests. Let's not kid ourselves that it's anything more than that.

I do not mourn Bin Laden's death. Neither do I celebrate it.
[/quote]

[i]Yes we all deserve to die... even you Mrs. Lovett, even I![/i]

[Selah]

lol someone posted "Okay, Osama Bin Laden is dead, but we still need to find and destroy the other 6 horcruxes"

[BG45]

[quote name='Era Might' timestamp='1304366152' post='2235894']
The wages of sin are death. Osama Bin Laden reaped what he sowed. I don't see any reason to manufacture false pity for an historically evil figure. As a man, I certainly mourn for Bin Laden in the way I mourn for all poor sinners. But as an historical figure, he is more a subject for analysis than a subject for personal feeling (that's true for most historical figures).

But, at the same time, just as Bin Laden's historical death is a subject for analysis, the nation that pursued him is also a subject for analysis. I'm not one to get behind nationalistic "celebration" over Bin Laden's death. His death is propaganda for the United States as much as it is for terrorists. The "patriotic" response is to insert Bin Laden's death in the narrative of America's role as a supposed "global force for good." But all this patriotic celebration has nothing to do with justice. As someone once remarked to me, "Governments do not have friends, they have interests." Bin Laden's death is in the United State's interests. Let's not kid ourselves that it's anything more than that.

I do not mourn Bin Laden's death. Neither do I celebrate it.
[/quote]

Well put.

[CatherineM]

I'm rejoicing that none of our military personnel were killed. I'm glad that it was accomplished without civilian casualties.

Now my mind turns to Pakistan. He's been protected for too long. They said this mansion was in a neighborhood filled with retired military, and was 2 miles away from Pakistan's military academy. It's time to evaluate who are really allies, and who are not.

[Socrates]

[quote name='AudreyGrace' timestamp='1304361821' post='2235843']

I'm sure he'll be using this in his campaign for re-election, too.
Coincidental that they killed him shortly after Obama began kicking into gear his campaigning...
I think he had a pretty good idea where he was all along.
Then again, I tend to be a conspiracy theorist. I'll stop now.
[/quote]
Not sure if I buy the conspiracy theory stuff, but Obama is definitely a cheap political opportunist.

Expect the rest of the re-election campaign to be centered around "Obama the Osama-slayer" and his mighty deeds.

(Especially as he has little else to show for his nearly four years of "Hope and Change," other than soaring gas prices.)