Cam42 Posted April 23, 2011 Author Share Posted April 23, 2011 [quote name='HisChildForever' timestamp='1303532149' post='2231298'] You should introduce yourself to him after the Vigil. [/quote] He knows me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaD2006 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) [quote name='CatherineM' timestamp='1303510306' post='2231237'] Could be worse. At least you got to attend a service, even if it wasn't the one you wanted. I am still stuck in bed having nurses come everyday to probe my backside. [/quote] Agreed ... and how about the thousands of people who do not have a full time priest nearby and can only have Mass once in a while. They wouldn't have had a Good Friday service either. I'm thankful for all of the priests that the Lord has called to His service, and for the blessing of having the Eucharist daily, and the blessing of having confession too. And ... I'm thankful for CatherineM being home (even if stuck in bed with nurses probing her backside). Edited April 23, 2011 by cmariadiaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted April 23, 2011 Author Share Posted April 23, 2011 [quote name='cmariadiaz' timestamp='1303539000' post='2231326'] Agreed ... and how about the thousands of people who do not have a full time priest nearby and can only have Mass once in a while. They wouldn't have had a Good Friday service either. I'm thankful for all of the priests that the Lord has called to His service, and for the blessing of having the Eucharist daily, and the blessing of having confession too. And ... I'm thankful for CatherineM being home (even if stuck in bed with nurses probing her backside). [/quote] It is far better to have a priest who is 100% orthodox and follows the precepts of the Church to the fullest on a sporatic level than to have a priest who is heterodox and simply does things the way he wants and teaches humanism as a form of Catholicism. I'll take the sporatic priest anytime over what I had to endure today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I went to confession yesterday and arrived just as the stations of the cross were ending. The line for confession was so long the priest simply stayed in front of the altar instead of going into the confessional. He told everyone to be very brief. It was nice confessing my sins in clear site of the empty tabernacle. The line went all the way back down the center isle, around the back of the church, and all the way back down the side isle. I actually got through reading 5 of the 7 secrets in the book, "7 Secrets of the Eucharist" that the_rev recommended. After that, I went home and watched "The Passion of the Christ" with my family and another family. It was my daughters first time seeing it. It was an amesome day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1303578683' post='2231415'] I went to confession yesterday and arrived just as the stations of the cross were ending. The line for confession was so long the priest simply stayed in front of the altar instead of going into the confessional. He told everyone to be very brief. It was nice confessing my sins in clear site of the empty tabernacle. The line went all the way back down the center isle, around the back of the church, and all the way back down the side isle. I actually got through reading 5 of the 7 secrets in the book, "7 Secrets of the Eucharist" that the_rev recommended. After that, I went home and watched "The Passion of the Christ" with my family and another family. It was my daughters first time seeing it. It was an amesome day. [/quote] May have to get that book. And my confession was in the sacristy, we had the cantor walk in on us and apologize profusely as she backed out the door. And she also said she was happy to see a university student being ministered to since we're a university parish lol. Ditto on watching Passion of the Christ...how'd your daughter do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 [quote name='BG45' timestamp='1303579606' post='2231419'] Ditto on watching Passion of the Christ...how'd your daughter do with it? [/quote] She said it was intense, and she loved it. She's 13. I think the fact that she attended Youth 2000 a few weeks ago helped her understand everything a lot better. I paused the movie several times to explain the parallels between the movie and what happens in mass. Oh, and yeah, definitely recommend the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaD2006 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1303578683' post='2231415'] I went to confession yesterday and arrived just as the stations of the cross were ending. The line for confession was so long the priest simply stayed in front of the altar instead of going into the confessional. He told everyone to be very brief. It was nice confessing my sins in clear site of the empty tabernacle. The line went all the way back down the center isle, around the back of the church, and all the way back down the side isle. I actually got through reading 5 of the 7 secrets in the book, "7 Secrets of the Eucharist" that the_rev recommended. After that, I went home and watched "The Passion of the Christ" with my family and another family. It was my daughters first time seeing it. It was an amesome day. [/quote] amesome dUSt. My Good Friday was special too. Although I didn't watch the Passion this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1303579949' post='2231420'] She said it was intense, and she loved it. She's 13. I think the fact that she attended Youth 2000 a few weeks ago helped her understand everything a lot better. I paused the movie several times to explain the parallels between the movie and what happens in mass. Oh, and yeah, definitely recommend the book. [/quote] Sounds amesome! Mel did a great job towards the end with the most blatant of the parallels I thought with the institution of the Eucharist and Christ on the cross. Glad she liked it and really got the parallels as you explained! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnatiusofLoyola Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I can certainly understand Cam's concerns about the Good Friday service at his parents' parish, and I'm glad he will be speaking to the priest about it. However, a couple of posters compared the suffering of sitting through an incorrect service as on par, or somewhat on par with Christ's sufferings, or generally agreed with this sentiment, and from my perspective, this feels like it could be something of an overreaction. I have never been beaten then crucified, while at the same time betrayed or let down by my closest friends, but Christ's sufferings--both physical and emotional--seem much worse to me. Cam and others are blessed to live in places where Good Friday services are allowed (or even available). And, he and others at least had the blessing of sufficient good health to be able to attend ANY kind of service. Many Phatmassers, including myself, do not have sufficient health to attend ANY service, however it is conducted. The Easter Vigil Mass is a particular favorite of mine, and tonight I will be celebrating it by myself, at home. I have downloaded the Anglican Use Missal from the Internet, and will use that--I'm very interested to see what the Easter Vigil Mass is like in the Anglican Use Missal. As many of you know, I live across the street from a convent of retired religious Sisters, and for many of the longer Masses, their priest (also "retired") offers a shorter version of the Mass, because the Sisters would not be able to make it through the full, long service. Also, the priest tells the Sisters to sit during sections of the Mass where ordinarily a congregation would stand or kneel. My "best buddy" among the Sisters has told me she is grateful for her vow of obedience in this case, because she obeys Father, and so does not have to feel guilty that she is no longer physically able to fully participate in all aspects of the Mass. She has been in religous life for 63 years, which makes her among the younger Sisters. (A few have celebrated their 80th Jubilees.) I can't claim to know the mind of Christ, but I suspect that he is grateful for all the sacrfices this Sister has made in her 63 years of religious life so far, and is pleased to see his daughter and bride worshipping him as far as she is physically able. Yesterday, I started saying the novena for the Feast of Divine Mercy, to end on Divine Mercy Sunday. I had never heard of this until recently, but all of us (especially myself) are in desperate need of Christ's mercy. And, to me, mercy is one of the important themes of Easter. All of us fall short, even priests, who theoretically should know better. Because ALL of us fall short, it seems like a weekend to be especially thankful and merciful for the ultimate sacrifice made by Christ. I am NOT suggesting that Cam should not talk with the priest. But, it could be that some of the errors were due to ignorance. (For all of us, there are SO many ways we fall short, and are ignorant of things we SHOULD know.) And, I wonder if the overall reaction to the service perhaps might be tempered by thankfulness for Christ's mercy for such things as being physically able to attend ANY type of service, and actually having a family to attend Mass with. For all Phatmassers who ARE able to attend Easter Vigil Mass tonight, will you put in a few words for those of us on Phatmass (and those around the world) who would love to be there, but can't? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Our very orthodox assistant pastor didn't get to make it to the stations of the cross at our sister parish yesterday because someone was stabbed outside the rectory garage, and the police had it taped off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 One of my more poignant moments of the day was reading the crucifixion account to my children. Even though we've talked about Jesus' death on the cross many times I think that it helped them understand, more than ever, how important it is. My 6 year old said "That's very sad." I told her, "Yes it is, but it's also so, so very special. He died for US." I've always said that I think converts often have a much greater appreciation for the Faith than a lot of us cradle Catholics. I think it can be easier for us to begin taking it for granted because it's always been there for us. I've always felt that I was very grounded in my faith, but I can tell you for sure having children has intensified it in a lot of ways. Things that I normally remain solemn while contemplating make me cry when I explain them to my kids. I can't really explain it, but I do know that these kids have helped me have a really amazing Holy Week. My 4 year old has been walking around telling me "I love Jesus." That just warms the cockles of my heart. Even if she was too chicken to kiss Jesus' feet at the veneration of the cross last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted April 23, 2011 Author Share Posted April 23, 2011 [quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' timestamp='1303590487' post='2231480'] [...] I am NOT suggesting that Cam should not talk with the priest. But, it could be that some of the errors were due to ignorance. (For all of us, there are SO many ways we fall short, and are ignorant of things we SHOULD know.) And, I wonder if the overall reaction to the service perhaps might be tempered by thankfulness for Christ's mercy for such things as being physically able to attend ANY type of service, and actually having a family to attend Mass with. [...] [/quote] The average age of the parish isn't one which is so infirmed that the proper celebration of the Mass of the Presanctified couldn't be done. Also, I refuse to accept that any priest can feign ignorance with regard to the administration of the liturgical actions which are proper to his ministry. Especially a priest who is in his late 50s. He knows better, he chooses not to follow through. As I've said before, I will be writing him another letter. He and I have corresponded before to apparently no good end, as there has been no ammendment to the concerns which I have raised, previously. As for being thankful that we have a service to attend....the priest shortage isn't so bad nor do the majority of the posters here live in such a remote place that they cannot get to the proper liturgies and para-liturgical services that should be the backbone of the life of a parish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 My Good Friday was different for me. I normally ask for the day off, so I can pray; go to the Mass of the Pre-Sanctified, and veneration. I asked for the day off about 2 weeks ago. Filled the little admin form out for the day off, and the CEO's secretary said she would take it in for him to approve. She then stopped by my office and asked me why I wanted the day off. This threw me a bit. So I just looked at her with a 'wha' expression on my face. Apparently, the CEO wanted to know if I was going to be out of town, if I had planned something (like going out of town with the family, rented a hotel room, etc) I said no, I just wanted the day off for religious reasons, I wanted to pray and go to Mass. She then asked if I was participating in the Mass in any way. (at the time, I was thrown way off by the questioning...cause like, i would just like one day off (I get 15 for the year)) I told her no, I was just going to pray and be with our Lord. She offered/suggested that I say I was in the Mass; that it would help my chances of getting the day off. I really appreciated her 'wanting to work with me'; but I declined and said she didn't have to do that. A few days later, my vacation form in on my desk, unsigned (as of yet), with a note from the CEO saying "see me". When he was free, I went in to see him. He was busy packing for a trip to China, I handed him the form and said, 'you wanted to see me?' and he said "how can i give you the day off without anyone knowing?" (this is one of our very very busy times of the year, so vacation in April is a no-no). I kinda shrugged my shoulders and said, "well, don't tell anyone". Quite honestly, I was a bit perturbed that instead of just saying, "sorry, I just can't give you the day off", he tried to put it off on me. He just smiled and handed back the unsigned form. I said, 'well, thanks anyways'. Afterwards, the very caring secretary asked me how it went, and i shook my head 'no'. She said, 'just go anyway; he'll be in China.' We shared a laugh and told her how I like how she thinks. So, Good Friday comes, and I go to work. The secretary stops by my office and says, 'hey, what are you doing here?'. I say, "i work here. " We laugh..she's a neat lady. I had planned to go to the Mass of the Pre-Sanctified at lunch...making the best of a bad situation. I would have liked to stay through the ninth hour; as is/was my custom. But do what you can, right? So..we are in the morning meeting and somehow someone in production messed something up..all which is inconsequential to this post other than to say since I had the only company car that day, it needed to be used to make a delivery. At the very time I was going to lunch. So I figured, I would deliver it. I had to make sure I could deliver it early, which I could. So I am feeling good. Before I go any further, it is really good to know that I cannot go from point A to point B without getting lost. So, I'm off.. I had SOMEONE ELSE get the directions for me. why i did not get them myself, i do not know. So... needless to say, I get lost. I am calling the office..as my GPS just broke. I am getting a headache, I'm mad, I'm hungry. At a stop light, I look up and say "come on, man" What should have been 45 minutes to and 45 minutes back turned into 2 hours to and an hour back. You don't even want to know how I pulled off getting lost on the way back home. So. I get back in the office work a few hours, go home. We went to the fish fry. Came home and watched Passion of the Christ. Last year Peyton could read some of it, but it moved fast for her, this year was not a problem. So we are watching it, and I glance over at Peyton, and I see her crying. very very softly. We had the TV up loud, so i would not have heard her cry. I snuggle her up to me and look to her as if to say, 'what's wrong'. And she just started to bawl and buried her head in my chest and said, "He just loves us so much, Daddy!" I teared up and said, 'yes, sweetie, He does'. It was one of the best Good Fridays ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I had a great Good Friday. I have no whines or complaints. I love my priests. God bless them all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnatiusofLoyola Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1303578683' post='2231415'] .....After that, I went home and watched "The Passion of the Christ" with my family and another family. It was my daughters first time seeing it. It was an amesome day. [/quote] [quote] Quote name=IcePrincessKRS....I've always felt that I was very grounded in my faith, but I can tell you for sure having children has intensified it in a lot of ways. Things that I normally remain solemn while contemplating make me cry when I explain them to my kids. I can't really explain it, but I do know that these kids have helped me have a really amazing Holy Week. My 4 year old has been walking around telling me "I love Jesus." That just warms the cockles of my heart. Even if she was too chicken to kiss Jesus' feet at the veneration of the cross last night. [/quote] [quote] Quote name=MIKolbe....So we are watching it, and I glance over at Peyton, and I see her crying. very very softly. We had the TV up loud, so i would not have heard her cry. I snuggle her up to me and look to her as if to say, 'what's wrong'. And she just started to bawl and buried her head in my chest and said, "He just loves us so much, Daddy!" I teared up and said, 'yes, sweetie, He does'. It was one of the best Good Fridays ever.[/quote] Kids have a way of helping keep things in perspective. I think that's one of the "common sense" reasons (in addition to the scriptural and traditional reasons) the Church places so much importance on married couples having children. Not having any children of my own, I've had to learn those lessons from other peoples' children (and from all the wonderful stories you post). I have also found that, in their own way, animals help things in perspective, too. P.S. Sorry for the messy quotes. I couldn't get Multiquote to work for some reason. Edited April 23, 2011 by IgnatiusofLoyola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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