franciscanheart Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 [quote name='MaterMisericordiae' timestamp='1303353179' post='2230756'] I went to my first Holy Thursday Mass 2 years ago and then, I had no idea about the tradition of only men having their feet washed. Two ladies that I had made friends with encouraged me to go up there since I had never done it. A deacon washed my feet and it was rather weird, especially when he kissed them. I don't think I'll be doing that again. [/quote] I remember being scandalized the year I saw women approaching the altar. Now it is customary in our parish for men, women, and children to have their feet washed. I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure the people changed when our pastor changed. Can't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 [quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1303421103' post='2230935'] Don't you mean Rome (Holy See)? as in ...they don't have the power to change the Mass without the permission of Rome (Holy See). [/quote] Yes, sorry, typo. Holy Week and all I am doing my more than my normal 5 things at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlySunshine Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 [quote name='franciscanheart' timestamp='1303421597' post='2230937'] I remember being scandalized the year I saw women approaching the altar. Now it is customary in our parish for men, women, and children to have their feet washed. I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure the people changed when our pastor changed. Can't remember. [/quote] It just doesn't seem appropriate to have women go up when men are doing the washing. Jesus only had men apostles so only men should approach the altar. The Pope doesn't wash women's feet so why should the priests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrestia Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Years ago I was told that the "[i]viri selecti[/i]" were seminarians, that the foot-washing was meant to prepare them to take up the sacramental life as the apostles were prepared. I don't see the difference using between lay men and women. Women are allowed to receive the Blessed Sacrament though none were at the Last Supper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 [quote name='tgoldson' timestamp='1303431750' post='2231009'] Years ago I was told that the "[i]viri selecti[/i]" were seminarians, that the foot-washing was meant to prepare them to take up the sacramental life as the apostles were prepared. I don't see the difference using between lay men and women. Women are allowed to receive the Blessed Sacrament though none were at the Last Supper. [/quote] It doesn't really matter what we think, we have rubrics to follow. The rubrics call for man (vir) not women (mulier). It makes no provsion for that. We cannot move against the rubrics. We don't have the right, no one single person does. The selected men, or viri selecti were ideally clerics, but since this has really only been going on in modern times since 1955, it was male parishoners until the emasculation which occurred after Vatican Council II. Since that time, it has been a free for all of abuse and neglect on the part of priests and leaders in the parish, based upon "inclusion." It is this false sense of participation which is the bane of the Church today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 When asked if something is allowed in the Novus Ordo I like what Father Z of the famed "What Does the Prayer Really Say", says. Basically (to paraphrase): "Yes, it is allowed, unless if it is not, but then there is usually a way around it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 [quote name='Brother Adam' timestamp='1303436876' post='2231022'] When asked if something is allowed in the Novus Ordo I like what Father Z of the famed "What Does the Prayer Really Say", says. Basically (to paraphrase): "Yes, it is allowed, unless if it is not, but then there is usually a way around it." [/quote] And therein lies the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Totally spoke too early. All males tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 [quote name='CatherineM' timestamp='1303419051' post='2230924'] Just in case people get the idea that this is one of those silly things that men use to dominate over women, I agree with Cam and Adam. It should be men only, and changing it is a way of trying to show how inclusive we are being. When asked once to participate, I told the priest that I would on one condition, that he allow me to wash his feet with my hair. I wish I'd had a camera to take a picture of his face. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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