Galloglasses' Alt Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8ZAHQscmtw&feature=feedu[/media] Just learned of this. Considering the majority of Catholics on this forum are American, I decided to share it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doe-jo Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 So secular people wrote to parishes about preaching about earth day on Easter Sunday.... I don't understand why he was so upset when it hasn't happened yet. Maybe I just misunderstood it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Telling people to go clean up a park???? Insanity!!!!!!!! p.s. Someone should buy this dude a tie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherie Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I'm not the biggest fan of "The Vortex." I will say, though - I can imagine there will be a lot of pastors who would be more happy to speak about "Earth Day" than about the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, which is literally the most important Feast Day in the Church. I think the point is that the job of Catholic priests is to preach about the tenants of the Catholic Faith, or at least about the readings heard at Mass that day. Yes, that includes our job to take care of the earth that God has given us, but it also includes the much-neglected topics of the sin of artificial contraception, the importance of modesty, that purposefully missing your Sunday obligation is a mortal sin, the fact that hell exists, etc. etc. etc. etc. ad infinitum. After all, we have Al Gore and everyone else for the "Earth Day" stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 [quote name='CherieMadame' timestamp='1302812784' post='2228719'] I think the point is that the job of Catholic priests is to preach about the tenants of the Catholic Faith [/quote] Unless your fellow parishioners have a..."unique" living arrangement, they probably should preach about the tenets of the Faith... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roamin Catholic Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 [quote name='Lilllabettt' timestamp='1302809462' post='2228701'] p.s. Someone should buy this dude a tie [/quote] On it...I'll buy him one that has airplanes on it. He shall wear it and love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 [quote name='Roamin_Catholic' timestamp='1302828724' post='2228795'] On it...I'll buy him one that has airplanes on it. He shall wear it and love it. [/quote] Buy him a bowtie with airplanes on it. So has it been written, so shall it be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 [quote name='Galloglasses' Alt' timestamp='1302713473' post='2228164'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8ZAHQscmtw&feature=feedu[/media] Just learned of this. Considering the majority of Catholics on this forum are American, I decided to share it here. [/quote] So he's what, some schmuck with a youtube channel who wants to conflate the American political right with Catholic Orthodoxy? The man strikes me as a doofus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1302830976' post='2228809'] So he's what, some schmuck with a youtube channel who wants to conflate the American political right with Catholic Orthodoxy? The man strikes me as a doofus. [/quote] That's pretty much right, this guy is kind of out there [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/crazy.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherie Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1302826309' post='2228786'] Unless your fellow parishioners have a..."unique" living arrangement, they probably should preach about the tenets of the Faith... [/quote] I have a bad cold, my brain isn't working. Cut me some slack!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 [url="http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2011/04/voris-kerfuffle.html"]http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2011/04/voris-kerfuffle.html[/url] I am perplexed. Some of my blogging confreres are a in such a tizzy over the latest missive from the baron of bombast, the kaiser of choleric, Michael Voris. (Apologies to Bill Donohue) Voris, about whom I am conflicted, did his daily soliloquy on the topic of a letter by Global Warming Inc. requesting that pastors devote the Easter Sunday homily to the topic of Earth Day. Voris pointed out that global warming is a scam (check) by the forces of population control (check) to encourage people to contracept and abort their way to a greener planet (check). Voris noted that all of this is in direct contradiction to the teaching of the Church. Check again. He goes on to say that Catholics should abandon a Church that promotes such anti-Christian nonsense for the simple reason that this Church is not Catholic in any meaningful way. He is, of course, right on all counts. But it is his suggested remedy that has unleashed the Catholic blogoshpere's ever ready desire to scold. Voris suggested that if one hears a homily about Earth Day on Easter, that you should forgo the collection plate and resign from the Parish on Monday. Even the hyperbolic suggestion of such incivility has given some bloggers the vapors. Voris makes the case that any local Church that embraces such anti-life and anti-Catholic tomfoolery, especially on Easter Sunday, has probably lost its Catholicity. His conclusion may be questionable, but I think he at least has a point. I am particularly amused by bloggers who make frequent use of hyperbole as a rhetorical cattle-prod are now so overcome with the brazenness of it all. One even used the hyperbolic and very misleading title "Did Michael Voris Instruct Catholics to Leave the Church?" as a launching point to discuss Voris' incivility. Apparently incivility is ok when deriding the uncivil. One day I will write the best-selling "Irony for Dummies". While I do not entirely embrace Mr. Voris' remedy, I think he makes some really valid points. So what is all the hubbub about? Mark Shea accuses him of delusions that he is a Bishop. Mark makes a larger point about avoiding talking heads who think they are the arbiter of all things Catholic with which I generally agree, but I don't really see how Voris is supposed to be delusionally usurping the role of Bishop. I don't think he is. Voris says that if your priest talks to you about global warming on the holiest day of the year instead of our resurrected Savior that your parish is likely so far gone that you should run, not walk, to an orthodox parish. What is so wrong about that? When I ran into such craziness at my parish, the diocesan Director of Worship advised me to switch parishes, which I did. Was he playing bishop too? Like I said, I am not sure that bypassing the collection plate and resigning from the parish is really the right remedy in this situation. I had tar and feathers in mind**. **For those of you that have not yet read my soon to be published "Irony for Dummies",please note that the "tar and feathers" comment is hyperbole which is usually defined as an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally used to make a point. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 [quote name='Lilllabettt' timestamp='1302809462' post='2228701'] Telling people to go clean up a park???? Insanity!!!!!!!! [/quote] Such banalities should not be the focus of a Holy Week sermon. All Vortex-guy's hyperbole aside, he does have a legitimate point. And any priest who lets the likes of Barbara Streissand and Leo DiCaprio dictate the content of his homilies (especially during Holy Week!) doesn't deserve to have a parish. That's true whether Vortex-guy says so or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1302830976' post='2228809'] So he's what, some schmuck with a youtube channel who wants to conflate the American political right with Catholic Orthodoxy? [/quote] Shame on him! On the other hand, conflating the American political left with Catholicism (such as by giving "Earth Day" sermons during Holy Week masses) is quite commendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 [quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1302888038' post='2228943'] Shame on him! On the other hand, conflating the American political left with Catholicism (such as by giving "Earth Day" sermons during Holy Week masses) is quite commendable. [/quote] Both stink... but I am moved to point out that Earth Day is not really a left wing thing. It's pretty mainstream. Seriously. Recycling is not a poltical act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 [quote name='Maggie' timestamp='1302895395' post='2228960'] Both stink... but I am moved to point out that Earth Day is not really a left wing thing. It's pretty mainstream. Seriously. Recycling is not a poltical act. [/quote] unfortunately just about everything can be made into a political act, but I agree. This guy does have valid points. If he could tone down his excitement and self-righteousness people might be more inclined to listen. Although that would limit the emotional response of the viewership and maybe less people notice him. Catch 22. figga it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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