College Decisions

[SoonerCatholic]

Just wanted to add that I have a friend who graduated from ND. I've asked her about it and she has told me great stories about Holy Week at Notre Dame, going to Mass after football games, and having Masses available everyday almost anywhere on campus. Coming to a secular state school for a graduate degree was really a contrast for her. While there may be issues with certain administrators at Notre Dame, I've no doubt that you can find orthodox students, priests, and professors there.

I've heard good things about FUS, but I when I visited Benedictine College, a student there told me she thought FUS was like Catholic Disneyland. Well, someone who has only attended state universities, both ND and FUS sound like Catholic Disneyland and Disneyworld. Wherever you end up going, find your niche and I'm sure you'll manage.

[AudreyGrace]

[quote name='Maggie' timestamp='1302310683' post='2226998']
This is very true. If you are looking to be in front-line ministry there is probably no better place to network than FUS. Bar none the contacts you would make would be incredible.
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This is the goal

[Fr. Antony Maria OSB]

[quote name='Amppax' timestamp='1302302188' post='2226968']
Thank's Hasan, you've given me a ton of great information. Also, thank you everyone else, you all have been great. Another question (not too far off of the topic) but does anyone have experience with FUS's Honors Program? The whole idea of a Great Books program sounds really interesting to me (I'm a complete bookworm) and compared to most Great Books programs that I know of, it is not an exclusive major, allowing you to actually come out with a major. Has anyone done this, or know someone who has, and if so, what do you have to say about it.

And darn, I was just up at ND for the weekend, if I had started this thread last week, I could probably seen more of what I wanted when I was there. Oh well.
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Not to put in a shameless plug here (but I will anyway ), if you're looking for a Great Books program at an orthodox Catholic University, the University of Dallas would be a great place to go, for sure. We have a two year core curriculum where everyone reads the great works, such as the Iliad, Odyssey, Aenied, the Republic of Plato, Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics, the Life of Benjamin Franklin, The Prince, and so much more, and you are still able to come out with a degree. Our history program is VERY good: I have a lot of friends who are history majors and they are definitely learning a lot and will be very well equipped for going into any area of history in the future. I saw that Deus_te_Amat already mentioned UD, but when I saw you were interested in a Great Books program, I had to say something. I am a current undergrad there, and I can tell you it is a GREAT place to grow in your spiritual and intellectual life, but really you will be able to grow as a whole person. UD is pretty good with financial aid: they about doubled what FUS offered me, and that took care of most of the tuition costs. [url="http://www.udallas.edu"]http://www.udallas.edu[/url] Take a look!

May God bless and protect you always in all of your endeavors!

Joe

[Amppax]

[quote name='NazFarmer' timestamp='1302380156' post='2227117']
Not to put in a shameless plug here (but I will anyway ), if you're looking for a Great Books program at an orthodox Catholic University, the University of Dallas would be a great place to go, for sure. We have a two year core curriculum where everyone reads the great works, such as the Iliad, Odyssey, Aenied, the Republic of Plato, Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics, the Life of Benjamin Franklin, The Prince, and so much more, and you are still able to come out with a degree. Our history program is VERY good: I have a lot of friends who are history majors and they are definitely learning a lot and will be very well equipped for going into any area of history in the future. I saw that Deus_te_Amat already mentioned UD, but when I saw you were interested in a Great Books program, I had to say something. I am a current undergrad there, and I can tell you it is a GREAT place to grow in your spiritual and intellectual life, but really you will be able to grow as a whole person. UD is pretty good with financial aid: they about doubled what FUS offered me, and that took care of most of the tuition costs. [url="http://www.udallas.edu"]http://www.udallas.edu[/url] Take a look!

May God bless and protect you always in all of your endeavors!

Joe
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Thank's I know now that I probably would have liked Dallas, but it's probably too late now, at least in terms of money and other such things. Oh well.

Edited April 11, 2011 by Amppax

[mcts]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1302268981' post='2226881']
ND is stinky right now on being CINO (Catholic in name only).
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That's partly a myth.

I would strongly suggest ND, partly because of your life after college. I know that it's really all about what God wants, so if you really feel like he's calling you to FUS, jump on it, but at ND, you'll have TONS of amazing religious opportunities, less debt, better air, and a degree that's worth more when it's all over.

Have you talked to the Campus Minister at ND? He's a great guy. If you haven't yet, I highly suggest it.

[Deus te Amat]

[quote name='Amppax' timestamp='1302490416' post='2227380']
Thank's I know now that I probably would have liked Dallas, but it's probably too late now, at least in terms of money and other such things. Oh well.
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Actually, some of my friends applied during the summer and still got scholarships.

It wouldn't hurt to try. At least call admissions and see what they could do.

[the 13th papist]

I did the honors program in my first semester. I discontinued because I was reading much of the same material as and English and theology major with many electives in classics (and because I was lazy). It's a lot of work, but I hear the first semester is the hardest. My friends who completed it really liked. The program pushes you to excel academically, while some of the pre-rec. courses are a waste of time if you are strong academically. I also think that as a history/education major (right?) it would be beneficial for you to read primary sources in addition to text books.

I hope his helps.

[Thepeug]

I would choose ND over FUS any day of the week. Sure, ND has a few loose cannons, but as others have stated, college is what you make of it. If you're searching for orthodox Catholicism at ND, you'll be able to find it easily. In both the job market and higher academia, FUS is virtually unknown outside of Catholic circles. I have a friend who's a graduate student in FUS's theology department, and seriously regrets his decision to go there. The cost is simply unmanageable. Trust me: as one who recently graduated (UNC Chapel Hill), I can tell you that the cost of your education shouldn't be taken lightly. Job competition is so fierce right now that many post-graduates are unable to even begin to pay off their debt. While there's something to be said for following one's heart, prudence is also a virtue.

You have my prayers!

[Catholictothecore]

I don't really know all that much about FUS except that it's a much better place from an alignment with the church standpoint. Congratulations, though, on having the grads necessary to even consider ND. You will find that, if you go there, the history and tradition is even deeper than most people know. It's just not necessarily Church tradition. Though they are somewhat getting better.

CttC

[EcceNovaFacioOmni]

[quote name='Catholictothecore' timestamp='1303309847' post='2230506']
I don't really know all that much about FUS except that it's a much better place from an alignment with the church standpoint. Congratulations, though, on having the grads necessary to even consider ND. You will find that, if you go there, the history and tradition is even deeper than most people know. It's just not necessarily Church tradition. Though they are somewhat getting better.

CttC
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Check out my posts above.

[4588686]

[quote name='Thepeug' timestamp='1303188562' post='2230086']
Trust me: as one who recently graduated (UNC Chapel Hill), I can tell you that the cost of your education shouldn't be taken lightly. [/quote]
How long ago did you graduate? I'm a senior there now. I guess we were there at the same time at some point.



Small world.

[Brother Adam]

Go to the school that has the better program for your major. You can remain Catholic at ND, even though it is much more difficult. There are ways to deal with the debt once you are done. It is better to be without it though. If you don't know your major, go to a community college for two years and transfer.

[franciscanheart]

I don't know how anyone could pass up Notre Dame, unless they were offered an equally competitive academic environment with a potentially better department for their focus of study. An extremely faithful, devout friend of mine from grade school recently (within a few years) graduated from Notre Dame and very soon after had a fantastic job in the same city as her fiance (a football player from Notre Dame) and they were able to start their family right away. Not only did they get fantastic educations and secure for themselves a fairly stable future, they made plenty of other friends that were also devout Catholics and made impressions on those who were not. They had the chance to witness to their entire campus while gaining significant merit for their studies.

[Cam42]

I vote neither...ND is heterodox. Plain and simple. There are dubious things going on at FUS as well.

I suggest that you check out [url="http://www.christendom.edu/"]Christendom College[/url], [url="http://www.avemaria.edu/"]Ave Maria University[/url], and [url="http://www.smac.edu/?CollegeMain"]St Mary's College[/url].

They are the best in the country, in my opinion.

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1303437274' post='2231024']
I vote neither...ND is heterodox. Plain and simple. There are dubious things going on at FUS as well.

I suggest that you check out [url="http://www.christendom.edu/"]Christendom College[/url], [url="http://www.avemaria.edu/"]Ave Maria University[/url], and [url="http://www.smac.edu/?CollegeMain"]St Mary's College[/url].

They are the best in the country, in my opinion.
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That's the funny thing about something run by humans...there are kinks along the way. I would go with any school listed in the Newman Guide.