Crusader_4 Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Hey a quick question for everyone excuse my ignorance but i am under the impression that in the states you need to b 18 to vote...to serve in the military yet 21 to drink...Now not that i encourage a younger drinking age or anything by any means i just cant understand how one can be entrusted with the power to infleunce the government and the nation at 18 and at the same time b too young to make RESPONSIBLE desescions about drinking? Whats up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willguy Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Welcome to america. Where our "democratically elected president" got less votes that the loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willguy Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Welcome to america. Where our "democratically elected president" got less votes that the loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinstripes Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 (edited) welcome to america, where the popular vote has never gotten the president into office. the ages used to be reversed, until the issue was raised that you can be 18 to die for your country and 21 to vote in it. that didn't make sense, so the changed it. i guess there were too many problems with drinking by people in the 18-21 age bracket (and probably a lot more younger than 18), so a change needed to be made. other countries don't have as strict regulations, but other countries are just different, and drinking is a cultural norm, and not simply a way to get drunk. if an 18 year old can pass off for 21 on a fake ID, a 15 year old can pass off as 18 on a fake ID... moving it to 21 eliminates the possability of a 21year old looking 15 year old. it's not fair for those who are responsable, but it's also the responsable thing to do to uphold what the country's laws are and set an example for others. here's to patriotism Edited April 23, 2004 by pinstripes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeamFamily Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 also, alcohol is abused more so i think the extra three years give people a chance to grow up and theorhetically not abuse it so much......do i realize that tons of underage drinking goes on anyway, yes.......but i still think the intent of the law is good i think the voting age was changed down to get more people involved in voting, a process which leads to a greater understanding of civic duty and whatnot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 It gets worse...in some states, certain things vary...in Nebraska, my state, these are some age requirements: 15: Driver's Permit 16: School Drop Out Minimum Age 16: Curfew Lisence (can only drive during certain hours) 17: Permanent Lisence (if no traffic violations occured in the previous year) 18: Permanent Lisence (if traffic violations occured between 16-17) 18: Voting Rights 18: Right to Play Pickles (those little gambling cards with peel-back rows of cherries and bells) 19: Right to Medical Information 19: Right to Enter Legally Binding Contracts 19: Right to Own a Gun 19: Adulthood 19: Right to play Keno 19: Right to play Scratch Cards 19: Right to play Lottery 21: Right to play Casino Games 21: Right to drink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 [quote] Welcome to america. Where our "democratically elected president" got less votes that the loser.[/quote] This is a Republic, Will, get used to it or go to ancient Athens. Electoral College forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 It was called the noble expriment of Prohibation. Banning drinking cause Americans to septerate from teh Euro model of drinking (at meal time have a beer or glass of wine) and we made your own. It is called the drink all you can as fast as you can and try not to die model. Sometimes we attach than drive to the title. My parents don't drink much but when they do it is at a meal and in very much moderation. They have let me have some drink before (1/2 a glass of wine or something) at home or on the crusie. The model they have shown by example looks much better to me, and will be the one I live by, than the other ones I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksey Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 (edited) you know how i see it as kids this day and age find that it if it's not allowed then do it and when they do it its of the heezy and just go crazy. but in other countries where maybe the legal limit is only like 15 or 16 then they just drink and chill no big problem. and they never think about getting drunk or anything. Edited April 24, 2004 by aznsonny27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 [quote name='Iacobus' date='Apr 23 2004, 05:23 PM']It was called the noble expriment of Prohibation. Banning drinking cause Americans to septerate from teh Euro model of drinking (at meal time have a beer or glass of wine) and we made your own. It is called the drink all you can as fast as you can and try not to die model. Sometimes we attach than drive to the title. My parents don't drink much but when they do it is at a meal and in very much moderation. They have let me have some drink before (1/2 a glass of wine or something) at home or on the crusie. The model they have shown by example looks much better to me, and will be the one I live by, than the other ones I see.[/quote] btw, if you're ever having a tough time remembering what Amendment Prohibition is, it's Number 18. Oh, and the Amendment to repeal it is #21. How funny is that? But seriously, Europe doesn't seem to have the drinking problems we do, and there they have either no age limit or they don't care (like in Italy) or the age limit is lowered to like 15. I see no problem to drinking [i]in moderation[/i]. Here's to living in Wisconsin! [quote]From WISCONSIN DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE Alcohol & Tobacco Enforcement: [b]Can children be in a bar with their parents? [/b] Yes. Persons under age 21 may be on licensed premises, and can be sold and allowed to drink alcohol beverages, if they are with their parents, legal guardians, or spouses, as long as those persons are of legal age; but this is at the discretion of the licensee. [/quote] lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 I am coming to wisconsin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader1234 Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 Oh Canada! Drinking age isn't well enforced. HOWEVER FYI IN MANITOBA... 15.5: Beginners liscense 16.5: Intermediate Learners Liscense 18: Drinking 18: Voting 19: Full license 21: Just another birthday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 I'm allowed to drink when I'm with my parents. Yay for Texas! Now, I have decided through the course of my 18 years that beer is disgusting, but wine's great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkan_hanil Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 In Japan you must be 20 to drink and or smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader1234 Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 here minors can smoke but they cant buy the cigarettes. you can drink with a guardian present. beer tastes good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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