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By: Bigga Don


This wallpaper on this site displays the 10 commandments as made up by the protestants. They seperate the 1st commandment into 2, and the last two commandments they combine into one. Who here can list the Catholic (and original) 10 Commandments?

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Here are the Catholic Ten Commandments:

1. I am the LORD your God. You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve.
2. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
3. Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.
4. Honor your father and your mother.
5. You shall not kill.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7. You shall not steal.
8. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
9. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.
10. You shall not covet your neighbor's goods.

While the entire Judeo-Christian tradition uses the same Scriptural content for the Ten Commandments, their exact division and numbering varies.

The Catholic tradition uses the division of the Commandments established by St. Augustine. The Lutheran confessions also use this numbering, while some other confessions & traditions use slightly different numberings.

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By: Bigga Don


This wallpaper on this site displays the 10 commandments as made up by the protestants. They seperate the 1st commandment into 2, and the last two commandments they combine into one. Who here can list the Catholic (and original) 10 Commandments?
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The Catholic 10 rightly associate making of idols with have one God and having no other god's before him. The Catechism does not leave out the part about graven images. By separating them out the protestants overemphasize the making of images as always forbidden. Yet God commands the making of cheribum himself over the mercy seat in Ex 25 AFTER he has given the command in Ex 20. He also commands the making of a bronze serpent in Numbers. This incident makes the Catholic point. At first the jews are to look upon the serpent in veneratoin and there disease is cured. But eventually they start worshipping it and God destroys it. The Council of Trent makes it clear that statues are not to be seen as the source of our benefits but as a reminder of holy things and people.



ON THE INVOCATION, VENERATION, AND RELICS, OF SAlNTS, AND ON SACRED IMAGES.

The holy Synod enjoins on all bishops, and others who sustain the office and charge of teaching, that, agreeably to the usage of the Catholic and Apostolic Church, received from the primitive times of the Christian religion, and agreeably to the consent of the holy Fathers, and to the decrees of sacred Councils, they especially instruct the faithful diligently concerning the intercession and invocation of saints; the honour (paid) to relics; and the legitimate use of images: teaching them, that the saints, who reign together with Christ, offer up their own prayers to God for men; that it is good and useful suppliantly to invoke them, and to have recourse to their prayers, aid, (and) help for obtaining benefits from God, through His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, who is our alone Redeemer and Saviour; but that they think impiously, who deny that the saints, who enjoy eternal happiness in heaven, are to be invocated; or who assert either that they do not pray for men; or, that the invocation of them to pray for each of us even in particular, is idolatry; or, that it is repugnant to the word of God; and is opposed to the honour of the one mediator of God and men, Christ Jesus; or, that it is foolish to supplicate, vocally, or mentally, those who reign in heaven. Also, that the holy bodies of holy martyrs, and of others now living with Christ,-which bodies were the living members of Christ, and the temple of the Holy Ghost, and which are by Him to be raised unto eternal life, and to be glorified,-are to be venerated by the faithful; through which (bodies) many benefits are bestowed by God on men; so that they who affirm that veneration and honour are not due to the relics of saints; or, that these, and other sacred monuments, are uselessly honoured by the faithful; and that the places dedicated to the memories of the saints are in vain visited with the view of obtaining their aid; are wholly to be condemned, as the Church has already long since condemned, and now also condemns them.

Moreover, that the images of Christ, of the Virgin Mother of God, and of the other saints, are to be had and retained particularly in temples, and that due honour and veneration are to be given them; not that any divinity, or virtue, is believed to be in them, on account of which they are to be worshipped; or that anything is to be asked of them; or, that trust is to be reposed in images, as was of old done by the Gentiles who placed their hope in idols; but because the honour which is shown them is referred to the prototypes which those images represent; in such wise that by the images which we kiss, and before which we uncover the head, and prostrate ourselves, we adore Christ; and we venerate the saints, whose similitude they bear: as, by the decrees of Councils, and especially of the second Synod of Nicaea, has been defined against the opponents of images.

And the bishops shall carefully teach this,-that, by means of the histories of the mysteries of our Redemption, portrayed by paintings or other representations, the people is instructed, and confirmed in (the habit of) remembering, and continually revolving in mind the articles of faith; as also that great profit is derived from all sacred images, not only because the people are thereby admonished of the benefits and gifts bestowed upon them by Christ, but also because the miracles which God has performed by means of the saints, and their salutary examples, are set before the eyes of the faithful; that so they may give God thanks for those things; may order their own lives and manners in imitation of the saints; and may be excited to adore and love God, and to cultivate piety. But if any one shall teach, or entertain sentiments, contrary to these decrees; let him be anathema.

And if any abuses have crept in amongst these holy and salutary observances, the holy Synod ardently desires that they be utterly abolished; in such wise that no images, (suggestive) of false doctrine, and furnishing occasion of dangerous error to the uneducated, be set up. And if at times, when expedient for the unlettered people; it happen that the facts and narratives of sacred Scripture are portrayed and represented; the people shall be taught, that not thereby is the Divinity represented, as though it could be seen by the eyes of the body, or be portrayed by colours or figures.

Moreover, in the invocation of saints, the veneration of relics, and the sacred use of images, every superstition shall be removed, all filthy lucre be abolished; finally, all lasciviousness be avoided; in such wise that figures shall not be painted or adorned with a beauty exciting to lust; nor the celebration of the saints, and the visitation of relics be by any perverted into revellings and drunkenness; as if festivals are celebrated to the honour of the saints by luxury and wantonness.

In fine, let so great care and diligence be used herein by bishops, as that there be nothing seen that is disorderly, or that is unbecomingly or confusedly arranged, nothing that is profane, nothing indecorous, seeing that holiness becometh the house of God.

And that these things may be the more faithfully observed, the holy Synod ordains, that no one be allowed to place, or cause to be placed, any unusual image, in any place, or church, howsoever exempted, except that image have been approved of by the bishop: also, that no new miracles are to be acknowledged, or new relics recognised, unless the said bishop has taken cognizance and approved thereof; who, as soon as he has obtained some certain information in regard to these matters, shall, after having taken the advice of theologians, and of other pious men, act therein as he shall judge to be consonant with truth and piety. But if any doubtful, or difficult abuse has to be extirpated; or, in fine, if any more grave question shall arise touching these matters, the bishop, before deciding the controversy, shall await the sentence of the metropolitan and of the bishops of the province, in a provincial Council; yet so, that nothing new, or that previously has not been usual in the Church, shall be resolved on, without having first consulted the most holy Roman Pontiff.

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Protestants use Exodus, and Catholics use Deuteronomy. I certainly prefer Deut because I'm a woman, and I don't like getting lumped in with all my husband's other property.

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thessalonian

I should also add in order to make up for the overemphasis against creation of images, protestants add women to the list of men's property. How do you like them apples.

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It was okay for Moses to make images on the Ark of the Covenant, but not for us to have statues of Mary around.

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[quote name='CatherineM' timestamp='1302020026' post='2226126']
Protestants use Exodus, and Catholics use Deuteronomy. I certainly prefer Deut because I'm a woman, and I don't like getting lumped in with all my husband's other property.
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In a sense you own your husband as much as he owns you as you have joined in marriage and are one.

ed

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[quote name='Ed Normile' timestamp='1302039746' post='2226245']
In a sense you own your husband as much as he owns you as you have joined in marriage and are one.

ed
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And now Ed just owned you :o

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[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1302009177' post='2226092']
1 run
2 shoe
3 tree
4 door
5 alive
6 sticks
7 heaven
8 plate
9 line
10 pen
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is this some type of G-rated version of Kings? :saint:

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Groo the Wanderer

Tis from a lil book called Josh and the Three Tree. Helps kids memorize the 10 Commandments.

1 run - you shall have no other gods before me. picture God running track and whomping the rest
2 shoe - you shall not take the Lord's name in vain. picture your brother about to curse and stuffing a shoe into his mouth to stop him

etc etc

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[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1302106186' post='2226391']
Tis from a lil book called Josh and the Three Tree. Helps kids memorize the 10 Commandments.

1 run - you shall have no other gods before me. picture God running track and whomping the rest
2 shoe - you shall not take the Lord's name in vain. picture your brother about to curse and stuffing a shoe into his mouth to stop him

etc etc
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idgi

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homeschoolmom

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idgi
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It's a little mnemonic device.

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Piccoli Fiori JMJ

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I like [url="http://bananabearandbophie.blogspot.com/2010/11/memorizing-ten-commandments.html"]using my fingers[/url] better.

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