Lil Red Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 (edited) title asks all. and why does it seem like many saints (that aren't martyrs) die of stomach ailments? Edited March 28, 2011 by Lil Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudreyGrace Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I'm not sure of the ones who actually died of stomach ailments, but I know that some patrons are St. Charles Borromeo, St. Wolfgang, St. Brice, St. Timothy, and St. Erasmus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherie Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 St. Ignatius of Loyola died of a stomach ailment, and St. Andre Bessette suffered from a chronic stomach ailment, but he didn't die in association with it, that I know of (he was in his 90s when he died). I didn't realize that many Saints died of stomach ailments; do you know of many others that have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 it just seems like when i read about the saints, many of them seem to have had stomach ailments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1301328418' post='2223920'] it just seems like when i read about the saints, many of them seem to have had stomach ailments. [/quote] You've been in ministry. That should be an easy one. I wonder if it has to do with the fasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I suspect some of it has to do with the worrying. On the other hand, lots of people in those times would have been said to have died that way. Any of the cancers in the abdominal areas would have been called a stomach ailment. As would illnesses caused by parasites, bad food, heavy metal toxins, and even arsenic poisoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name='Brother Adam' timestamp='1301330347' post='2223926'] You've been in ministry. That should be an easy one. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name='CatherineM' timestamp='1301330815' post='2223928'] I suspect some of it has to do with the worrying. On the other hand, lots of people in those times would have been said to have died that way. Any of the cancers in the abdominal areas would have been called a stomach ailment. As would illnesses caused by parasites, bad food, heavy metal toxins, and even arsenic poisoning. [/quote] true. i was just wondering about any theological implications of so many saints being stricken with 'stomach ailments'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherie Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1301331555' post='2223930'] i was just wondering about any theological implications of so many saints being stricken with 'stomach ailments'? [/quote] That's a neat thing to ponder. I don't know any real answer, but it's fun to speculate. It seems that "stomach ailments" are a big test of virtue: it affects everything. How and what you eat (or whether or not you're even able to), how it makes its way through your gastrointestinal system; I'm sure a severe stomach ailment would make it very hard to walk or even go about your daily duties, and it's something very easy to complain about (from what I've heard, it's the #1 complaint of women). Plus if you have a stomach ailment (especially in days of yore) I'm sure it affected your nutrition, which would affect just about everything else in your body. I know at least for me, it would require a lot of virtue to be able to deal with that gracefully and with full trust in God! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilier98 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 (edited) St. John Cafasso died of a stomach ailment I believe. For those who don't know him he mentored St. Don Bosco. He was also known as The Priest of the Gallows because he worked with prisoners. Edited March 28, 2011 by emilier98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sistersintigo Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Gee, the horizon just widened for me. After all, this is news to me because the saints that come to my mind are all consumptives, and that's lungs, not stomach....so, a different thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 At least for the women, they weren't dying in childbirth or of childbirth fever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I went through a phase where every Saint I read about worked as a doorkeeper. And all the Carmelites died of tuberculosis. There's this American, Carlos Santiago, he died in the 1960s of ulcerative colitis - he is beatified but not canonized. That is the one I always think of as having actually died from a stomach disorder. I've noticed a lot of saints have stomach problems but not so many that actually die of it. just something interesting I discovered awhile back -- in the Islamic hadith there are 4 different kinds of martyrs - those who die for Allah, those who die of plague, those who die in childbirth - and those who die of stomach problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debra Little Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1301297633' post='2223872'] title asks all. and why does it seem like many saints (that aren't martyrs) die of stomach ailments? [/quote] And TB[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1301328418' post='2223920'] it just seems like when i read about the saints, many of them seem to have had stomach ailments. [/quote] Maybe it was the food lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debra Little Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name='Lilllabettt' timestamp='1301341934' post='2223971'] I went through a phase where every Saint I read about worked as a doorkeeper. And all the Carmelites died of tuberculosis. There's this American, Carlos Santiago, he died in the 1960s of ulcerative colitis - he is beatified but not canonized. That is the one I always think of as having actually died from a stomach disorder. I've noticed a lot of saints have stomach problems but not so many that actually die of it. just something interesting I discovered awhile back -- in the Islamic hadith there are 4 different kinds of martyrs - those who die for Allah, those who die of plague, those who die in childbirth - and those who die of stomach problems. [/quote] Lol it does seem like a lot of saints, (Carmlite in particular), died from TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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