Ice_nine Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Ok so quick question. My cousin and I were talking about what we gave up for lent, and she was sorta yelpin' about how giving up coffee was making her all . I casually asked her if she drinks on Sundays and she replied something like "no I think that's bull. If you give something up you shouldn't half-arse it." I could have been a beesh and said "well you've given up going to Mass on Sundays so at least you're consistent," but what good does that do? How can I explain to her in a non-righteous way why one doesn't (and perhaps should not?) abstain on Sundays and solemnities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Ask her what the point is of giving up something for Lent is if it doesn't draw you closer to Jesus Christ and His Church? Sundays are for feasting. Not fasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) sorry red I disagree. Coming from a half way Catholic, but I am changing and strengthening my walk, this is how I would have wanted someone to tell me. First explain the purpose of Lent. I think that she may not know. I mean I grew up going in a Catholic school I didn't know. So I think being positive and direct her instead of being judgmental. Edited March 25, 2011 by Blind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I am not being judgmental. I don't know this person and so I don't know their personality. Some people respond better to a direct question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1301087879' post='2223293'] Ask her what the point is of giving up something for Lent is if it doesn't draw you closer to Jesus Christ and His Church? Sundays are for feasting. Not fasting. [/quote] some people use lent just to test their willpower, especially non-Christians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='Tony' timestamp='1301090544' post='2223311'] some people use lent just to test their willpower, especially non-Christians [/quote] Well, there's no helping idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1301089964' post='2223301'] I am not being judgmental. [/quote] I apologize if it seemed as though I was directing that towards you, I meant it more when its explained don't sound judgmental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='Blind' timestamp='1301094623' post='2223332'] I apologize if it seemed as though I was directing that towards you, I meant it more when its explained don't sound judgmental. [/quote] Gotcha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1301091195' post='2223312'] Well, there's no helping idiocy. [/quote] not even in a thread called "Lent 4 dummiez" eh? (just kiddin with ya ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='Tony' timestamp='1301096174' post='2223340'] not even in a thread called "Lent 4 dummiez" eh? (just kiddin with ya ) [/quote] it says 'dummiez', not 'idiots'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted March 26, 2011 Author Share Posted March 26, 2011 haha, thanks Red I think that's a good way of going about it . The person in question was baptized Catholic but was not catechized at all. Her older sister was going to CCD a few years before her parents yanked her out, only to find out later the reason they did this is because their mom had an abortion and they didn't want their kids to grow up being all judgmental or some tripe like that. Being that both sides of her family are Catholic I think she may culturally identify as one but her knowledge is little, and it's kinda sad cause it's not really her fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Ice_nine' timestamp='1301109491' post='2223389'] haha, thanks Red I think that's a good way of going about it . The person in question was baptized Catholic but was not catechized at all. Her older sister was going to CCD a few years before her parents yanked her out, only to find out later the reason they did this is because their mom had an abortion and they didn't want their kids to grow up being all judgmental or some tripe like that. Being that both sides of her family are Catholic I think she may culturally identify as one but her knowledge is little, and it's kinda sad cause it's not really her fault. [/quote] our sacrifices should remind us of Christ's sacrifice on the cross, and we should unite our sacrifice (no matter how little) to His. That is the 'reason for the season'. We should draw strength from the sacraments during this time of trial and temptation. God bless you for helping your cousin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudreyGrace Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 My friends say the same thing too, about "not seeing the point" of not fasting on Sundays in Lent. I get annoyed because I try explaining that they're days of celebration, not of sacrificing. The friends who criticize me about this are not Catholic at all, which truly tests my patience. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 (edited) I was hoping the Solemnity would be mentioned in our church bulletin but it wasn't.. there wasn't any mention of it at all! I had to tell everyone at home it was okay to eat meat today, (er.. yesterday now) Edited March 26, 2011 by Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Attending Sunday Mass is a requirement of the Church for being Catholic, and deliberately missing mass without serious reason is a mortal sin. If one does not obey the precept of the Church to attend Sunday mass, and thus lives in mortal sin, then all her fasting and penances are without merit. The point of lenten penance is for spiritual benefit and to lead one to greater holiness, not for its own sake or just to be "hard-core." Complaining about one's penances is also a bad practice. Your cousin needs to get to confession and mass (in that order) before she worries any further about penance on Sundays and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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