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What's Going On In Libya?


Era Might

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Seriously, I probably haven't heard the name "Libya" once in the last decade, and all of a sudden we're in the middle of a war. What's going on? Somebody clue me in please.

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Brother Adam

[quote name='Era Might' timestamp='1300648838' post='2221954']
Seriously, I probably haven't heard the name "Libya" once in the last decade, and all of a sudden we're in the middle of a war. What's going on? Somebody clue me in please.
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I have heard it in the context of terrorism and sex trafficking, but that's about it. Apparently he is attacking his own people who are trying to overthrow him. The UN passed a resolution to declare a no fly zone over Lybia and allied nations starting striking.

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[quote name='Brother Adam' timestamp='1300658925' post='2221968']
I have heard it in the context of terrorism and sex trafficking, but that's about it. Apparently he is attacking his own people who are trying to overthrow him. The UN passed a resolution to declare a no fly zone over Lybia and allied nations starting striking.
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This. He's facing an all out civil war after nearly losing to a popular uprising that started in protest form and has been butchering civilians. With the declaration of the No Fly Zone a lot of western nations are moving in to enforce it, including the United States. Ironic given that Senator Barack Obama once stated, "The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation".

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Sternhauser

[quote name='BG45' timestamp='1300661051' post='2221973']
This. He's facing an all out civil war after nearly losing to a popular uprising that started in protest form and has been butchering civilians.
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They're not "civilians." They're "insurgents."

~Sternhauser

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Economic collapse, no jobs, then no food, and the people rebel. Been studying the French Revolution this weekend.

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Doesn't Congress need to give approval for military action to be taken against a country that's not directly threatening us? And even one that is threatening us, I thought... :idontknow:

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Nihil Obstat

[quote name='Chamomile' timestamp='1300745164' post='2222151']
Doesn't Congress need to give approval for military action to be taken against a country that's not directly threatening us? And even one that is threatening us, I thought... :idontknow:
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Haven't you heard? We're fighting for freedom! Bringing democracy to the oppressed! Nobody is declaring war; they're declaring peace!!![size="1"] (by killing lots and lots of people)[/size]
It's simply undemocratic to question this military intervention, even the slightest bit. If we suggest that we need approval for such actions, well then the terrorists have already won.

Freedom for all! Anything that is not mainstream Western culture is probably evil from which the poor unwashed masses must be liberated!!!

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AudreyGrace

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1300745384' post='2222152']
Haven't you heard? [b][i][u]We're[/u][/i][/b] fighting for freedom! Bringing democracy to the oppressed! Nobody is declaring war; they're declaring peace!!![size="1"] (by killing lots and lots of people)[/size]
It's simply undemocratic to question this military intervention, even the slightest bit. If we suggest that we need approval for such actions, well then the terrorists have already won.

Freedom for all! Anything that is not mainstream Western culture is probably evil from which the poor unwashed masses must be liberated!!!
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Aren't you Canadian :blink:

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Nihil Obstat

[quote name='AudreyGrace' timestamp='1300746870' post='2222157']
Aren't you Canadian :blink:
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Yes, and the only reason we're not just as bad, if not worse, is because we're smaller and have less people to do bad things. :lol:

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[quote name='AudreyGrace' timestamp='1300746870' post='2222157']
Aren't you Canadian :blink:
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His people are bombing the Libyans too.

Edit: So it's not just a one liner, always good to provide a link to the Beeb: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12781682

And Stern, I consider them civilians when they're unarmed, I consider the armed rebels to be the insurgents. :)

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Nihil Obstat

[quote name='BG45' timestamp='1300747366' post='2222161']
His people are bombing the Libyans too.
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'Tis true. :sad2:

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[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1300747386' post='2222162']
'Tis true. :sad2:
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Were you more surprised by that or was I? Because my first response was "That doesn't seem like Canadian foreign policy..."

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